Are Cross-Gender Friendships Possible?

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cross-gender relationshipsThis post is part of the February Synchroblog “Cross Gender Friendships”. I will list the links to all the contributions at the end of this post as soon as they are available.

Several years ago I attended a three-week training conference in Georgia for my job. I was warned before I went down there that it was a very “sexualized” environment. The warning was an understatement. While there, it seemed that nearly everyone in my group “hooked up” with someone else. My roommate slept with at least two different girls, and in the morning on my way down for the continental breakfast at the hotel, it was not uncommon for me to see guys coming out of girls’ rooms where they had clearly spent the night.

Due to my position at work, there were certain elements of the training I was exempt from. There was also a female in our group who was similarly exempt, but for different reasons. But we weren’t allowed to just sit around and do anything we want while the rest of our group was out getting trained. No, we had to study together for some other exams which we would take at the end of the three weeks. The instructors put the two of us in a room together for hours on end to read our textbooks, do our research, and quiz each other about what could possibly be on the exams.

At one point during these study sessions, she said, “Do you think that cross-gender friendships are possible?”

Call it sexism, patriarchism, or whatever, but I immediately answered, “No. I do not think so. While they might be possible for women, they are not possible for men.”

Now, the truth is that I had never really thought about the question before. But I knew that in this environment, I needed to protect myself from any possible temptation, and all appearance of evil. The instructors had already put the two of us into a room all by ourselves for hours on end, and there were already numerous jokes and innuendos flying around among our group about what the two of us were really doing while all that “alone time,” and I had no idea what sort of morals, values, or ideas this woman had in her head which would lead her to ask this question of me, but I did not want to take any chances, or to give her the impression that we were friends, or could be “more than friends.” So I cut her off at the pass and said, “No, it isn’t possible.”

Now, I have no clue what she was thinking, and if I had answered differently, I have no clue what she might have thought. I am certain nothing would have happened, since I was not attracted to her, but it was one of those situations where I felt that one couldn’t be too cautious.

But if the question had been asked to me in a different context — such as the context of this synchroblog — would I have answered any differently? Is it possible to have cross-gender friendships?

I suppose that almost anything is possible, but on this particular question, my personal experience says, “No.”

The only “friends” I have ever had who were females, were also girls I was interested in “romantically.” Oh sure, there were some females I did not have any attraction toward, but with whom I enjoyed hanging out with, talking to, and having conversations with, but I never considered any of these my “friends.”

Of course, the best friend I have ever had in my entire life is a woman, and I married her. But we are waaaaaay more than just friends. Enough said about that….

So although I have never really had a good cross-gender friendship which was only a friendship, I am not going to say it is impossible. Although it has not happened to me, I suppose it is possible for men and women to be good friends without either one wanting “something more.” Clearly, it will be this way in eternity, but just as clearly, we are not there yet. Nevertheless, I do think such cross-gender relationships are possible.

But I would add a word of caution, and here is why cross-gender friendships get so difficult. If a marriage is going through difficult times, I do not think cross-gender friendships are a good idea. I have seen too many marriages destroyed because the husband (or the wife) goes to their cross-gender friend to let off a little steam about their spouse, to get a little support and counsel from their friend. When this happens, the friendship becomes more enjoyable than the marriage, and the friend is given more love (even if it is philo - friendship love) than the spouse. Sometimes these friendship lead to affairs, but even when they do not, the person is receiving companionship and love from someone besides their spouse, and this tends to only drive deeper wedges into an already struggling marriage.

And since ALL marriages go through rocky times, maybe the question is not “Are cross-gender relationships possible?” but rather, “Are cross-gender relationships wise?”

I, for one, think that when it comes to married couples, cross-gender friendships are not wise.

But what do you think? What is your experience? If you have a good friend of the opposite sex, how did it develop, and what safeguards (if any) do you put in place to protect your marriage?


This post is part of the February Synchroblog, where a bunch of bloggers write about the same topic at the same time. Many of the people below are “blogging friends” and many of them are female. So does that count as a cross-gender relationship? Ha! I imagine they will have a different take on the subject, so go check out their posts below.


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  • http://scilla.org.uk/ Chris

    Interesting post, Jeremy. You and I reach different conclusions and have had different experiences. Maybe you are wiser than me. Or possibly we simply have different definitions of the word ‘friendship’.

    You wrote, ‘Oh sure, there were some females I did not have any attraction toward, but with whom I enjoyed hanging out with, talking to, and having conversations with, but I never considered any of these my “friends.”’

    But for me, a friendship includes ‘someone I enjoy hanging out with, talking to, and having conversations with’. That fits within my definition, though some friendships sometimes go deeper than that of course.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org/ Jeremy Myers

      I doubt I am the wiser….

      Part of it is that I am one of the guys who is terrible around women. I am always shocked that my wife married me.

      Anyway, it might be that my awkwardness around women is part of the reason for my personal position. I accept that.

      I am glad that others can have cross-gender friendships. I think I could if it was a cross-gender friendship in with both my wife and I were friends with another couple. But that is a different question, I think.

  • Sam

    I am reminded of the maxim/aphorism oft quoted by Plato and many others: “Know thyself”.

    With one or two exceptions, my best friends have always been women. In high school my best friend was a high school teacher (although she did not teach in my school), and all of these years later we still keep in touch. Although I have been quite close to many of these ladies, I have never had a love or sexual relationship with them. They have brought a richness to my life that would never have been there without them.

    Some men and women cannot handle such relationships. If you know that about yourself, you should avoid them. On the other hand, I know many men and even more women who have had many very successful relationships with opposite gender people with whom they were not in love. I use the term “in love” in the generally accepted sense used by our culture. I love my friends, my neighbors and even the homeless people who are our friends.

    On the other hand, my “love” for my wife includes a deep commitment to be here for and with her, even when things aren’t going well. I do not have quite the same level of commitment with any other friend, male or female.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org/ Jeremy Myers

      Good point, Sam. “Know thyself” is a good maxim. I know that given my history and my mentality, cross-gender friendships are not a good ideas for me. I am glad they work for others.

      Some have insinuated, however (not you), that since I cannot handle cross-gender friendships, I am sexist and patriarchal. I don’t think I am either, but then, maybe this is one of the areas of my life in which I am blind to my own sin. What do you think?

      • Sam

        Hmmm. I have seen no evidence on line or in person that you are sexist or patriarchal. I have observed several sexist and patriarchal men who absolutely cannot trust themselves around women, and in my opinion use the sexist and patriarchal approach to keep women at arm’s length. However, that does not mean that men who cannot handle cross-gender friendships are by definition sexist and patriarchal.

        Next time we talk, we might discuss another possibility which I will not mention here lest it get us all off-topic.

  • Marta L.

    For me, this is a meat/milk issue. I am unmarried so it’s at least half as complicated for me to be friends with a man. Even there, there are some men that I am romantically attracted to but choose not to pursue a romance (for instance, if they’re already married).

    For me, this is only some men I’m attracted to, and I don’t see a problem becoming close friends with the others. There’s nothing impossible per se about crossgender friendships, as long as you don’t feel romance toward the other person. But this is a milk issue for me, whereas for others it will be more difficult, meat. I shouldn’t judge them for their struggle. :-)

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org/ Jeremy Myers

      Marta,

      Great point. I agree. And as you point out, there are some friendships where it is possible, and others where it might not be possible. We all need discernment and wisdom to figure out which is which.

      • Marta L.

        When I was reading this post I was reminded of a friendship I had in my M.A. program, where I found a particular male classmate quite attractive romantically, and only after several weeks learned he was married. (In retrospect, the wedding band should have been a big clue.) Afterwards I had to back off the friendship because it felt a little dangerous – my feelings were too strong for me to be emotionally intimate and there not be a risk of it going too far. For me, that kind of situation is rare; for others, I respect that it’s more common. The key, as you say, is discernment.

        • http://www.tillhecomes.org/ Jeremy Myers

          I like that. Some cross-gender friendships are possible, but we need to be in tune to our own inner feelings and desires, and know when to back away. Thanks for sharing this story!

  • Mark Pixley

    I am not sure that it is completely a cultural thing that is expressed in scripture to the negative here, people (always women for some reason) suggest Jesus was friends with women as an example that this is possible…I do not agree…Jesus was indeed friends to some degree, but every woman (and man) with whom he was friends is now considered His Bride, so even God defaults to a romantic relationship here.

    I blogged about this a few years ago and have not found a substantial reason to change my perspective, which is tough since I have been single (divorced, not by choice) for 18 years…I have remained pure, but it has been a rather guarded experience because of my perspective here…

    http://markrandallpixley.wordpress.com/2011/04/15/can-single-men-and-women-be-friends/

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org/ Jeremy Myers

      Hmmm. That is an interesting observation about Jesus. I might argue that the relationship is spiritual, and so not quite the same thing, but I see your point.

      It does make me think, however, that one way to avoid being romantically inclined toward friends of the opposite sex is to view them as sisters (or brothers for women) within the family of God.

  • Rob

    Right away my thoughts went to the friendships that I share with my sisters. There is something remarkable (and somewhat intangible) when it comes to being close to a woman who has been born from the same parents. You can enjoy all aspects of emotional connection and even healthy signs of physical affection without romantic or sexual overtones.

    Perhaps this gives us a picture of what an eternal (non-sexual) existence with brothers and sisters might look like…

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org/ Jeremy Myers

      Friendships with sisters is probably a bit different, but as I mentioned in the comment above, and as maybe you are alluding to, if we can view our female friends as sisters within the family of God, then this might help us refrain from viewing them in any other way. Great points!

  • Amy M

    Hi Jeremy,

    I’ve really loved this thread of posts, what thinking it all inspires!

    First of all, let me say that I don’t think that because you don’t feel comfortable with cross-gendered friendships that means you’re patriarchal and/or sexist. I think in your case, it means you’re cautious. Via twitter and blog posts, I’m sure that we have differing views on many things, but I’ve consistently seen you as gracious, open and introspective, even amongst differences. I see integrity. So, (forgive me if I’m overstepping) I’m guessing your caution with cross gendered friendships is probably more an extension of your desire to live with integrity, than it is a desire to uphold patriarchal or sexist views.

    I wanted to comment on your words about caution in marriages that are in rough places. There’s a lot of wisdom there. When you have two people that are not connected its very, very easy to take that intimacy somewhere else. Then it can easily becomes a drain, a taking-away from a marriage already struggling with intimacy. I would be highly cautious about befriending someone not connecting well in their marriage, and unable or unwilling to deal with those issues. I’ve actually been in several situations where a man will befriend me, and then I catch wind of marital discontent. I quickly forward them back to the real issues, and then make myself some space. In fact, this fall, on a business trip like yours where the MO was “hooking up” I had one of these situations. I think I took that poor man by surprise, he did NOT get what he expected. He got a stern earful on the balcony of a tall building about marriages and intimacy and chasing women on business trips in order to avoid their problems at home. Which he actually thanked me for, funny enough. I will say that when you do have solid friendships, your cross-gendered friends, (or ANY friends for that matter) won’t tolerate spouse-bashing and avoiding spousal intimacy.

    Anyway, I am quite comfortable with cross-gendered friendships, (as is my husband) – and we all need to leave space for each other, this whole topic has history, it’s so muddled in our thinking for all kinds of reasons. I’m so glad you posted your honest thoughts, thanks! It’s certainly a topic that deserves our honesty.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org/ Jeremy Myers

      Thanks, Amy. This was a very encouraging comment. I am sometimes overly cautious, partly because I don’t want to get “burned” or “put myself out there” so to speak… I mean, I am married, but this caution can also restrict the possibility for genuine friendships with other people.

      Of course, I am also naturally introverted, which doesn’t help either.

      I would love to learn more about how it works with both you and your husband having cross-gender friendships. Do you actually go “do things” with male friends while your husband is at home with the kids (and vice versa)? If I went out to coffee or a movie with a female friend who was not my wife, I think I would spend the whole time wishing my wife was there instead (or as well).

  • http://www.kathyescobar.com/ kathyescobar

    the part i always like about the synchroblogs are the diversity of thoughts. i appreciate your honesty and your feelings about them. i do see it differently but agree with you on the issue of cross-gender friendships and marriages. i believe they are so possible and have seen that in my own life and also in the lives of many friends, but it does require a security and health in the marriage and a total and complete openness. my strong relationship with jose has helped me have the ability to forge solid relationships with male friends and everything has always been out in the open and free. that makes all the difference.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org/ Jeremy Myers

      Thanks, Kathy.

      As I wrote this post, I remember thinking that you are actually someone I could be possibly be good friends with if we lived closer. The few times we have met, I have really enjoyed hanging out and talking.

      One thing that probably kept me back from having cross-gender friendships is that my marriage was real rocky for the first 12 years or so (It was all my fault. Really. No. REALLY). Things are getting MUCH better now though, and so maybe as my marriage improves, cross-gender friendships will be possible as well. I still would want Wendy to come along all the time too, though, because I just cannot imagine going anywhere fun without her…

  • http://profiles.google.com/jennifer.ellen Jennifer Ellen

    From my own experience, I know it’s possible to get beyond that wanting “something more” from a friendship so the friendship can continue and flourish. As a single women who’s had many single male friends, of course there’ve been times when one or the other of us wondered about, or even wanted, something “more.” Sometimes it’s passing hormones (bluntly), sometimes it’s deeper than that. But if you’re really committed to seeing your friend flourish and become who God made them to be, there can be a path through that.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org/ Jeremy Myers

      Thanks, Jennifer. That is encouraging to know as well. I am impressed that you have the wisdom and discernment to be able to tell the difference. You are right that the true friendships take the commitment to grow and flourish together. I have moved so often in the past 15 years, maybe part of my problem is that I have just not stuck around long enough to let a friendship grow.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dbrennanj Dan Brennan

    Jeremy, so grateful for your honest and authentic contribution. It is important to know your self. On your thoughts about the possibility of friendship during a rocky season it would require wisdom and knowledge of the many different kind of scenarios. Even during that season both parties within the marriage may know the cross-gender friend enough to know that it’s not a temptation or a liability in the story. One perhaps thinks of an opposite sex adult sibling who–just because they are opposite sex doesn’t mean they are a liability. But it is important to know thyself and I appreciate your contribution.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org/ Jeremy Myers

      Yes, I see the point about siblings, but for me, that is a completely different category altogether. But again, as I have pointed out in a few comments above, if we can view friends of the opposite sex as other members of the family of God, then maybe that would help. Thanks for the comment!

  • http://wordshalfheard.blogspot.com/ Carol Kuniholm

    It’s sad we live in such a sexualized world. And sad to think of how much is lost to the church, and to each of us, when we hold each other at such distance out of fear of inappropriate responses.

    Thinking of siblings – I wonder if those of us who grew up with close opposite gender siblings might find it easier to maintain friendships across genders. I’ve always had male friends, even as a child, and have always enjoyed working alongside men, or hearing their points of view. But I know other women who grew up without brothers who can’t imagine such friendships as healthy or wise.

    I’m reminded of the passage that says ” treat younger men as brothers, older women as mothers, and younger women as sisters, with absolute purity.” i thnk our churches would be much stronger if we were able to do that. And I’m very very thankful for my brothers in Christ who have treated me as a sister.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org/ Jeremy Myers

      It is sad, and I wish it were not so, but it is nevertheless true that we must be careful in this world so as not to stumble.

      I have six sisters, so it is not as if I was without females around me when I was growing up! And right now, I have three daughters.

      I agree that our churches would be stronger if we could treat each other as brothers and sisters in Christ. Great point!

  • http://gracerules.wordpress.com/ Liz Dyer

    In response to your post I respectfully disagree and would ask you to consider this: the goal is that we learn to love each other in healthy and respectful ways and if we learn to do that then cross-gender friendships do not present a problem. If there is a problem of someone starting an inappropriate sexual or romantic relationship I don’t think that avoidance should be the final answer because in Christ we should be able to be transformed in a way that we wouldn’t do such a thing to someone else. In addition, I think that avoidance perpetuates negative stereotypes of men and women … typically that men can’t control themselves and that women will accept any attention given to them from a man. Sure, you might start a friendship with someone who ends up making improper advances to you but if that happens then you deal with it on a one on one basis. Even someone of the same gender could “tempt you to do something that is wrong or could be a “bad influence” but you wouldn’t quit making friends with all people of the same gender because of the possibility of it being a problem.

    I think that some would say they would rather take the “better safe than sorry” approach but I think the approach of avoiding cross-gender friendships will make us sorry in a different way and my opinion is that we don’t have to be sorry in any way … we can honor and respect our spouse and also cultivate healthy, loving cross-gender friendships with others (or in the case of same sex partners “same-sex friendships”) which will in turn help us to stop denigrating and shaming people because of their gender, help facilitate a better understanding of the opposite sex and decrease inequality in relationships, businesses and religious organizations.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org/ Jeremy Myers

      Liz,

      I hear what you are saying, and see your point, and agree with you that in most cases, what you suggest is best.

      But if you change the scenario a bit and tried to make the same argument about alcohol to an alcoholic, you are only asking for trouble. Would it be best if he could control his addiction and drink a beer or a glass of wine responsibly? Of course. But his addiction makes those behaviors “unsafe.” For an alcoholic, it is better to be safe than sorry.

      For numerous reasons, I didn’t share all of my own history in this post…. but for me, it is better to be safe than sorry….

      • http://gracerules.wordpress.com/ Liz Dyer

        Thanks for responding. I’m not that comfortable with comparing giving up alcohol to giving up friendships with women but obviously there is something personal shaping your opinion and I respect that it is personal and not something you wish to share.

        I can respect that there are exceptions (although I still believe those exceptions don’t have to be permanent because people can be transformed and find wholeness and healing), I just don’t want anyone to get stuck in thinking that avoidance of cross-gender friendships is the best or final answer due to something they have heard taught at church. I believe that if we see avoiding cross-gender friendships as the final answer we are settling for second best when it comes to living out our lives of faith.

  • Graham

    My closest friend apart from my fiance is a woman. I freely admit I was romantically attracted to her but it became apparent that it wasn’t mutual. We’ve been friends ever since, we meet for dinner, cinema quite often. I have other female friends who I’ve never been attracted to.

    The safeguards I have include just being honest with my fiance and not wanting to risk my friendship. So I think it’s completely possible.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org/ Jeremy Myers

      Hmmm. Interesting. Does your fiance ever say anything?