Comments on: St. Pete’s Church Bar and Grill http://www.tillhecomes.org/st-pete%e2%80%99s-church-bar-and-grill/ Bringing Scripture and Theology to Life Wed, 16 May 2012 02:27:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jeremy Myers on Facebook http://www.tillhecomes.org/st-pete%e2%80%99s-church-bar-and-grill/#comment-9283 Jeremy Myers on Facebook Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:28:30 +0000 http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/?p=23#comment-9283 Ron, I have enjoyed it too. You have a wonderful and loving way of disagreeing. I think we could have some great conversations if we lived nearer each other. Thanks! Ron, I have enjoyed it too. You have a wonderful and loving way of disagreeing. I think we could have some great conversations if we lived nearer each other. Thanks!

]]> By: Ron Wilson on Facebook http://www.tillhecomes.org/st-pete%e2%80%99s-church-bar-and-grill/#comment-9282 Ron Wilson on Facebook Mon, 05 Dec 2011 03:40:44 +0000 http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/?p=23#comment-9282 Well, love hopes all things, right? Jeremy, I enjoyed our discourse. Thank you. Well, love hopes all things, right? Jeremy, I enjoyed our discourse. Thank you.

]]> By: Jeremy Myers on Facebook http://www.tillhecomes.org/st-pete%e2%80%99s-church-bar-and-grill/#comment-9281 Jeremy Myers on Facebook Mon, 05 Dec 2011 01:56:00 +0000 http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/?p=23#comment-9281 Ron, I agree with you that the broader definition of "seeker friendly" is seeking to please a certain type of man. But I also think that "non seeker friendly" are also trying to please a certain type of man. Also, the "seeker friendly" church leaders argue that the reason they are doing the things they do to reach a certain type of man, is because they are trying to bring glory and honor to God and please Him only. Ron, I agree with you that the broader definition of “seeker friendly” is seeking to please a certain type of man. But I also think that “non seeker friendly” are also trying to please a certain type of man.

Also, the “seeker friendly” church leaders argue that the reason they are doing the things they do to reach a certain type of man, is because they are trying to bring glory and honor to God and please Him only.

]]> By: Ron Wilson on Facebook http://www.tillhecomes.org/st-pete%e2%80%99s-church-bar-and-grill/#comment-9280 Ron Wilson on Facebook Mon, 05 Dec 2011 01:46:15 +0000 http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/?p=23#comment-9280 In my opinion, a 'seeker friendly' church in the broader definition is 'seeking' to please a certain type of man. Or at least cater to him. I just think a certain amount of caution should be used. : ) Friends? In my opinion, a ‘seeker friendly’ church in the broader definition is ‘seeking’ to please a certain type of man. Or at least cater to him. I just think a certain amount of caution should be used. : ) Friends?

]]> By: Jeremy Myers on Facebook http://www.tillhecomes.org/st-pete%e2%80%99s-church-bar-and-grill/#comment-9279 Jeremy Myers on Facebook Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:28:38 +0000 http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/?p=23#comment-9279 Ron, Well of course, that is the real question if we are talking about the purpose of life. But if we're talking mathematics, that is not the real question. If we are talking engineering, that is not the real question either.The questions are determined by the subject being discussed. When it comes to the church, everybody thinks they are pleasing God. Everybody. So in the context of the subject being discussed, asking "Who are we trying to bless, God or man?" is an unhelpful and unfruitful question. Who would ever say "man"? Ron, Well of course, that is the real question if we are talking about the purpose of life. But if we’re talking mathematics, that is not the real question. If we are talking engineering, that is not the real question either.The questions are determined by the subject being discussed.

When it comes to the church, everybody thinks they are pleasing God. Everybody. So in the context of the subject being discussed, asking “Who are we trying to bless, God or man?” is an unhelpful and unfruitful question. Who would ever say “man”?

]]> By: Ron Wilson on Facebook http://www.tillhecomes.org/st-pete%e2%80%99s-church-bar-and-grill/#comment-9278 Ron Wilson on Facebook Sun, 04 Dec 2011 15:43:24 +0000 http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/?p=23#comment-9278 I respectfully disagree with your idea of 'the real question'. I think the 'real question' is... who are we seeking to bless? God or man? I respectfully disagree with your idea of ‘the real question’. I think the ‘real question’ is… who are we seeking to bless? God or man?

]]> By: Jeremy Myers http://www.tillhecomes.org/st-pete%e2%80%99s-church-bar-and-grill/#comment-9239 Jeremy Myers Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:50:34 +0000 http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/?p=23#comment-9239 Ron, I have a different take on most things related to "church." I think that pretty much every church is "seeker friendly" but that each church defines "seeker" a little bit differently. So the real question is "Which seekers are we catering to?" Ron,
I have a different take on most things related to “church.” I think that pretty much every church is “seeker friendly” but that each church defines “seeker” a little bit differently.

So the real question is “Which seekers are we catering to?”

]]> By: Ron Wilson on Facebook http://www.tillhecomes.org/st-pete%e2%80%99s-church-bar-and-grill/#comment-9207 Ron Wilson on Facebook Sat, 03 Dec 2011 23:14:07 +0000 http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/?p=23#comment-9207 Jeremy, I have nothing against choosing a bar for a venue, but beware the 'seeker friendly' thing. If the time of singing is replaced by a mini concert designed to bless the congregation, I think the whole point has been missed, eh? Jeremy, I have nothing against choosing a bar for a venue, but beware the ‘seeker friendly’ thing. If the time of singing is replaced by a mini concert designed to bless the congregation, I think the whole point has been missed, eh?

]]> By: Ant Writes http://www.tillhecomes.org/st-pete%e2%80%99s-church-bar-and-grill/#comment-6685 Ant Writes Sun, 25 Sep 2011 06:42:24 +0000 http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/?p=23#comment-6685 I think it's a great idea. I heard about something like this about 5 years ago. It was in California I believe. As long as the didn't do traditional church, as in they just replaced WHERE the church was held, I'm all for it. Whether you get together in a living room or a bar, it's all good. Now, it may be hard to justify having church in a strip bar. I think it’s a great idea. I heard about something like this about 5 years ago. It was in California I believe. As long as the didn’t do traditional church, as in they just replaced WHERE the church was held, I’m all for it. Whether you get together in a living room or a bar, it’s all good. Now, it may be hard to justify having church in a strip bar.

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