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Matthew 12:31-32 – The Unpardonable Sin

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Unpardonable Sin

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Most Christians have wondered at some point in their life if they have committed the unpardonable sin. I have personally talked with Christians who got a divorce, or got an abortion, or committed adultery, and thought they had committed the unpardonable sin. Others think that suicide is the unpardonable sin. If a person commits suicide, then they are going to hell. Then I have talked with some who believe that the unpardonable sin is rejecting God. If you are a Christian, and you go back to living like you aren’t a Christian, or if you curse Jesus, or deny that you ever knew Him, then this is the unpardonable sin.

All Christians can Commit All Sins

But did you know that there are people in the Bible who have committed one or all of these sins whom we all expect to see in heaven? Let me show you. Divorce first. Did you know that God is a divorced person, and we certainly all expect to see Him in heaven. We read in Jeremiah 3:8 that God divorced Israel.

What about abortion? They didn’t really have abortion back then the way we do now. But if you believe, as I do, that abortion is taking the life of another human being, then we can call abortion the murder of babies. Abortion is infanticide. We know from Ezekiel 16:21 that many of the Israelites did this as a form of idol worship. They offered their children to false idols as human sacrifices. While not all Israelites were saved, some of those who did this will probably still be in heaven.

Then there is adultery. David, the man after God’s own heart committed adultery with Bathsheba (2 Sam. 11:4), as did many of the other kings and rulers of Israel. Paul sometimes writes about adultery among church members who will make it to heaven, but will lose their inheritance and reward there. Suicide is talked about too. Samson (Jdg. 16:29-30) committed suicide, and we believe he will be in heaven. King Saul also committed suicide (1 Sam. 31:4-5); 1 Chr. 10:4-5), and he will be in heaven as well. The most famous example of someone who rejected and denied Christ is Peter. He even used profanity and curses in denying any connection to Jesus Christ. Yet we know that he was forgiven and will be in heaven.

In fact, there are a whole host of other sins mentioned in the Bible that true believers have committed yet will still be in heaven. The Bible talks about believers who commit idolatry (1 King 11:1-10). Others who believe only for a while (Luke 8:13) and then fall away. We read of some who do not continue in the Word of Christ (John 8:31), do not abide in Christ (John 15:1-8), become disqualified in the race of the Christian life (1 Cor. 9:24-27), resist God’s correction up to the point of physical death (1 Cor. 11:30-32).

Others stray from the faith (1 Tim. 1:5-6), shipwreck their faith (1 Tim. 1:18-20), fall away from the faith (1 Tim. 4:1-3), deny the faith (1 Tim. 5:8), cast off initial faith to follow Satan (1 Tim. 5:12-15), stray from the faith by loving money (1 Tim. 6:9-10), stray from the faith by teaching false doctrine (1 Tim. 6:20-21) and deny Christ and live faithless lives (2 Tim. 2:11-13). We have the examples of people in the Bible who murdered and committed adultery, and yet were said to be saved (Jacob’s sons). Other men, like Solomon, Amaziah and Uzziah will most likely be in heaven, but did not live very faithfully to God during their lives. Some of them committed adultery, had multiple wives, committed murder, and fell into idolatry.

Then there is the righteous man who commits unrighteousness and dies as a result of it in Ezekiel 18, and the man in 1 Corinthians 5 who was involved in an incestuous relationship with his mother in law. Lot who committed incest with his daughters. Ananais and Sapphira in Acts 5 and so many other examples in Scripture of genuine believers who fell away. The point of all of this is to show that the grace of God runs deeper and wider than most of us will ever know. The ocean of God’s grace never runs dry. The limits of God’s grace never are reached.

A Sin that God Does not Forgive?

And yet we come to a troubling passage in Matthew 12:31-32 which indicates that there is a sin which the grace of God does not extend to. This passage is often pointed to as proof that we can lose our salvation. The sin mentioned in this passage is often referred to as the unpardonable or unforgivable sin. It is said that if you commit this sin, then no matter what happens afterward, you will not make it to heaven. There may be some truth to some of this, but the only way to see is to look carefully at the text. Let’s begin with verse 31.

Matthew 12:31 Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.

We learn in verse 31 that every sin will be forgiven, except one – the blasphemy against the Spirit. Let’s look first at this concept that every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men. We know what sin is. It is when we do something contrary to God’s character or will. When God tells us what He wants us to do, and we don’t do it, we sin. James puts it this way, “Anyone who knows the good he ought to do, and doesn’t do it, sins.” Blasphemy is similar. The most basic definition of blasphemy is to speak evil or injuriously about God. So blasphemy is a sin of the tongue. A sin that uses words and thoughts rather than actions. So right away, all of this sins listed above that involve actions are not what Jesus is talking about. In fact, the only sin mentioned above that involves actions and thoughts is the sin of denying Christ and speaking against Him. So blasphemy against Christ is to speak evil or injuriously about Him. But jump ahead to verse 32. Look what Jesus says there. He says that speaking against the Son of Man will be forgiven.

So all of the possible sins we began with are now seen to be forgivable. Divorce, adultery, abortion, suicide all fall under the category of “every sin” and these will be forgiven. Blasphemies will also be forgiven, even those spoken against Jesus Christ. Only the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.

Notice in verse 31 that when Jesus talks about forgiveness, he talks about it in a future tense. The fact that this is in the future tense tells us something very important about the state of these people Jesus has in mind. They are currently unforgiven. They have not yet been forgiven. If Jesus were talking about you or I, he would have said, “Every sin and blasphemy has been forgiven.” But Jesus doesn’t say this. He says, “will be forgiven” which means the people he has in mind are not yet forgiven. They are unsaved.

Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit

This is comforting because it tells us that the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit must be something that only unsaved people can commit. If you are a believer in Jesus Christ, then you have already received the total forgiveness of your sins in Christ, and this verse isn’t even talking about you. It is only talking about those for whom forgiveness is still a future possibility. Jesus says that if, before their sins are forgiven, they commit a certain sin called the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, that sin will not ever be forgiven them. So what is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? Verse 32 helps us answer this question.

Matthew 12:32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

The sin that will not ever be forgiven is not speaking against Jesus Christ, but speaking against the Holy Spirit. What is that?

There are at least four different theories on what this sin is.

1. Israel’s Rejection of the Messiah

The first theory is that this sin is Israel’s national rejection of the Messiah. This theory has a lot going for it, because right in the previous context, the Pharisees claim that Jesus is performing miracles by the power of Satan (12:24). In the context following verses 31-32, Jesus calls that generation an “evil generation” which deserved condemnation for rejecting the Messiah (12:39-42). These Jews are rejecting Jesus as the Messiah, and so maybe that is what this sin is. If so, then that means that nobody can commit the sin except for the Jewish people living at the time of Christ. According to this theory, since we are not Jewish and we are not living at the time of Christ, we cannot commit this sin. This theory, by the way, is the one I was taught in Bible school. It is also held by such people as Warren Wiersbe and John MacArthur.

Though this theory has a lot going for it, I don’t hold to it because it seems this warning applies to “anyone,” not just Jewish people at the time of Christ. Furthermore, although the context does help us understand the unforgivable sin, it has to be something beyond rejection of the Messiah and speaking against the Messiah, because Jesus says that these things will be forgiven men, but not speaking against the Holy Spirit. So the unforgivable sin is not Israel’s national rejection of the Messiah.

2. Christ in League with Satan

The second theory, is that it is accusing Christ of Satanic allegiance. A twist on this theory is that this sin is committed when people attribute the work of the Holy Spirit to Satan. One man writes: “When we write off supernatural healings, prophetic utterances, the gift of tongues, etc. as coming from the devil, we are denying the power of the Holy Spirit. We are being disrespectful to the Holy Spirit. We are committing blasphemy against the Holy Spirit!”

Of course, in some charismatic circles, their behavior goes way beyond healing and prophecy and speaking in tongues. Sometimes it gets into Holy Laughter, barking like dogs and braying like donkeys, getting slain in the Spirit, rolling in the isles and having your tooth fillings changed to gold. Certain Christian leaders have said that these are counterfeit miracles from the devil. In response, certain charismatic leaders have said that such statements are blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

Years ago, when the holy laughter phenomenon began to spread out from Toronto into other churches around the world, there were many who were saying that this experience was not of the Holy Spirit, but was of Satan. Those who were involved in the Toronto Blessing phenomenon claimed that such statements were blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. They claimed that if God was doing something through the Holy Spirit, and other people said that these things were from the devil, then that is the unforgivable sin. They get this idea because in context, Jesus is performing miracles and casting out demons, and the Pharisees say that He does this by Beelzebub. Jesus then accuses them of having coming close to committing the unforgivable sin, if having not already committed it.

But I don’t think this is the best interpretation of the passage. Scripture is very clear that not everything that appears spiritual is from the Holy Spirit. Satan can and does counterfeit the works of God. So we are supposed to test the spirits and see if they are from God. If we are convinced a certain activity is not from God, but is a counterfeit deception from the devil, it is our obligation to denounce it. And we shouldn’t have to worry that we might be committing the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit by denouncing something that is actually from God.

There are even such ecstatic experiences cropping up in Catholic, Mormon, Jehovah’s Witness churches, as well as in pagan, animistic cults. We wouldn’t want to say these are from the Holy Spirit, and if the second theory is true, we cannot say they are from the devil, just in case God really is working in these false religious churches. The point is that this second theory becomes impossible to practically live out, because there would be no way to tell people what is right and what is wrong. So this second theory has very weak evidence in context, and especially in light of the rest of the Bible.

3. Failure to Believe in Jesus

The third interpretation is one that I held for a few years, and it is the idea that the unforgivable sin is simply a failure to believe in Jesus for eternal life. Someone who does not believe the gospel will of course not be forgiven in their unbelief. If they continue in their unbelief until death, then they will never be forgiven. This is the view of Charles Stanley and many others. As I said, I held to this view for several years, and it has a lot going for it. The reason I eventually rejected it, is that the warning here by Christ seems more serious than this. Jesus indicates that this sin cannot be forgiven, whereas unbelief can be. And if this sin is unbelief, why not just call it unbelief?

4. Consistent and Willful Rejection of the Spirit’s Testimony about Jesus

The fourth view is the one that makes the most sense. It is kind of a mixture of all three previous views. It keeps the strengths of these other views, and avoids their weaknesses. The fourth view is that the unforgivable sin is a willful and slanderous rejection of the Holy Spirit’s testimony about Christ. One reason I eventually came to this conclusion is through a deeper understanding of the work of the Holy Spirit among unbelievers. The Holy Spirit is at work in the world convicting them of sin, of their need for righteousness, and the coming judgment (John 16:7-11). He also helps draw and woo people to Jesus Christ.

If a person is being convinced by the Holy Spirit that Jesus is the Messiah and should be trusted for eternal life, and that person lashes out verbally at the Holy Spirit by saying something about how Jesus is of the devil, or the accuses the Holy Spirit of being Satanic, this is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. This is different than simple resistance of the Holy Spirit. When non-Christians resist the Holy Spirit, they are trying not to hear what the Holy Spirit is telling them. They try to drown out His still small voice with constant music and recreation and entertainment and sex and alcohol and drugs. They listen to people who tell them they are “pretty good” people. It appears that every non-Christian is in a state of resistance to the Holy Spirit.

What Happens When Someone Commits this Sin?

But from this condition of resisting the Spirit, one of three things will happen. First, the person may stop resisting, and submit to what the Holy Spirit is saying, and so, having understood that they are a sinner and in need of salvation because judgment is coming, they will believe in Jesus Christ for eternal life. They are now and forevermore a Christian.

Second, the non-Christian may continue to resist throughout his or her life, and will die in a state of resistance and go to eternal punishment. They never believed, and so do not receive the benefits of salvation.

Thirdly, a person may get tired of always resisting, and may lash out in anger and blasphemy against the Holy Spirit for what He is trying to tell them. This person knowingly and maliciously rejects and slanders the Holy Spirit for His efforts to bring them to salvation. This is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. The result is that the Holy Spirit stops trying to convict them. They have once and for all chosen their path of rebellion. The Holy Spirit will no longer convict them of their sin, of the offer of salvation, or of impending judgment. Such people have demanded to be left alone, and their request will be honored.

You see how this is a combination of the three first theories. The first theory was that the Jewish people had rejected the Messiah. People in our day who commit this sin also reject the Messiah, but it is more than that. The second theory is that this sin is when people attribute the work of the Holy Spirit to the devil. This happens when people say that the conviction of sin and the convincing of a need for Jesus Christ is of the devil, but again, the sin is more than that. The third theory was that this sin is nothing more than unbelief. And it is unbelief, but willful, hardened, blasphemous, and verbal rejection of Jesus Christ and especially the work that the Holy Spirit is trying to do in that person’s life.

When an unbeliever lashes out in this way, this reveals a heart hardened beyond hope of forgiveness. They will never be forgiven because there is nothing left for the Holy Spirit to appeal to. The Holy Spirit stops attempting to draw, convict and convince such people. And without the Holy Spirit’s work in this way, no person will ever be saved.

Have you Committed the Unpardonable Sin?

So, how do you know if you, or a friend, or relative, have committed this sin? If you have believed in Jesus Christ for eternal life, then you are saved, and it is no longer possible for you to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. Since you have believed in Jesus for eternal life, the Holy Spirit has stopped working upon you as He does with non-Christians, and is now indwelling within you to mold you, shape you and form you into Christlikeness. Due to this, a Christian can quench and grieve the Holy Spirit, but cannot blaspheme the Spirit in the way Christ talks about here. So if you are a believer, don’t worry about committing the unpardonable sin. The chance to commit it is forever in your past.

If, however, you are not a Christian, and are worrying about whether you have committed this sin, be encouraged. Nobody who commits the blasphemy against the Spirit wonders if they have. They don’t care about such things anymore. The unbeliever who commits this sin has become so morally and spiritually blind that their heart is hardened to the point that they no longer care about spiritual things and will never believe in Jesus.

But nevertheless, some people are afraid they have. To them, I would simply say, “Worrying about it pretty much proves that you haven’t. So in order to make sure you never will be able to, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved. Whatever sin you may have committed, you are still being convicted by it, which is good. God’s grace will cover over that sin, and all other sins if you will just believe in Jesus for eternal life.”

During World War II, a United States battleship, aircraft carrier, and several other smaller boats were patrolling the waters of the Northern Atlantic in search of German U-boats. One evening, several pilots took off from the carrier and were told to be back by a certain hour. But the leader of the squadron of four planes purposefully stayed out longer, feeling with just a little more time, he could find the enemy and secure an impressive hit. As the sun set, a German armada entered the area. The American fleet was in trouble for now they were outgunned, outmanned, and outnumbered. Unbeknownst to the pilots, radio silence was ordered between the ships in the water and the aircraft still in flight. At this point, as their fuel was getting dangerously low, the pilots radioed to the American ships, but there was no reply. Again and again the plots cried, “Turn on the lights! Turn on the landing lights!” But the lights didn’t go on, for do have done so would have jeopardized the lives of thousands of men. Thus, the story is recorded how the men on that aircraft stood by in horror as they watched four American planes crash into the icy waters of the Atlantic.

It’s not a story with a good ending. But neither is committing the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. God wants all men to be saved, and through the Holy Spirit draws all men to Jesus Christ. The light shines in their lives and grace woos them to Jesus. But there may come a time when the Lord, the Commander in Chief, will order radio silence because of blatant rejection of His Holy Spirit. In Jeremiah 7:16, God says to Jeremiah, “Don’t pray any longer for these people.” They had repeatedly rejected God’s offer, and so eventually God stopped making the offer. A person doesn’t have forever to make a decision about Jesus Christ. There is a point in time where the lights may go off, and the radio may be silenced, and where all the person can do is fly in circles until they run out of gas and crash.

The difference between this illustration and those who commit the unpardonable sin, is that people who do blaspheme the Holy Spirit have so hardened their hearts that they do not realize the condition they are in, nor do they care. They are not crying out to God for light or help or salvation. They just live their lives without a thought for God or a care in the world for spiritual matters. The Holy Spirit has ceased to work on their hearts and they are completely given over to the darkness of their hearts and the spiritual blindness of their eyes.

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is a serious sin that only unbelievers can commit, and even then, only when they have resisted the Holy Spirit for many years and have come to the point that they so completely reject what He is trying to do in their life, that they openly and verbally denounce Him and Jesus Christ and the feelings of sin and guilt in their own lives as the work of Satan in their lives.

I am not sure if we can ever know if a person has committed this sin or not in their lives, but one thing we can know – if we have believed in Jesus for eternal life, we have already responded positively to the Holy Spirit’s work in our life, and so the opportunity to commit the unforgivable sin is past. It is not a sin a Christian can commit. At the same time, if an unbeliever fears they have committed this sin, chances are they have not, because someone who has committed it would have such a hard heart that such thoughts would not even enter their mind. Bob Wilkin writes: “If you’re afraid you’ve committed the unpardonable sin, stop worrying. Jesus is not a liar! If you believe in Him for eternal life, then you’ve got it. It’s that simple. He guarantees it.” (See also the article by Charlie Bing.)


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  • RC

    I have sought after God but He has soundly rejected me. I am legally changing my first name to Reprobate…I am morally disciplined but I am pre-determined for damnation. Why i don’t know. it’s very discouraging. I didn’t seek god my own way but his, via accepting jesus into my life. i’ve tried my best to follow his will but i am going to hell…god does not accept everyone and I am proof of that. I am Reprobate C. i “knocked on the door” so many times i work for a christian organization and i am damned to hell.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      RC,
      Why do you think you are damned to hell? As long as you are alive, the offer of eternal life is available to you.

      But notice that eternal life is given freely to all who believe in Jesus for it. We do not receive it by asking Jesus into our life, submitting ourselves to Him, or trying to follow His will. These will always lead to one things – a certainty that we are damned.

  • FS

    Christians still sin RC. Christ understood that and it is his purpose to reconcile his followers with the Father when they stand before judgement. Becoming a Christian doesn’t transcend you from the lusts and passions you had before, it merely means that Christ’s sacrifice was yours and those sins are attoned. If you feel convicted about sinning after conversion that is evidence of the Holy Spirit in your heart trying to make you a better man.

  • lee

    like… except the phrase that says, God is a divorced person… God is consistent. He will not say one thing and do another… In Malachi, God said, “I hate divorce”.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Yes, God does say that in Malachi. But He also says in Jeremiah 3:8 that he has divorced Israel. He gave her a certificate of divorce. How do you understand that verse?

    • http://www.truth-makes-freedom.blogspot.com/ Katherine Gunn

      An alternate translation of the passage in Malachi is, “I hate the putting [sending] away.” This referred to the practice of isolating and cutting off their wives, preventing them from having sons to look after them and not giving them a bill of divorce so that they could seek sustainance from someone else.

      • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

        Katherine,
        Interesting. I admit I had never looked it up. I will have to do this. Thank you very much for the tip!

  • Terry Zeyen

    Jeremy, you stated that the fourth view “that the unforgivable sin is a willful and slanderous rejection of the Holy Spirit’s testimony about Christ” is the correct understanding. The problem is that most people who continue to reject the Holy Spirit’s testimony about Christ and die in their sins do not actually “blasphemy” the Holy Spirit verbally. This fourth view does not meet the definition of “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” and therefore is not the correct understanding.

    Rather I would maintain that the first view, “Israel’s Rejection of the Messiah” is the correct view. Specifically it was the blasphemy of the Jewish religious leaders saying that Jesus was doing miracles by the power of the devil which was obviously the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit to which Jesus was referring. Here is some excerpted exposition in the subject by the great Messianic Jewish scholar Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum:

    The Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit: Matthew 12:30 37
    “Yeshua then laid a charge against the Pharisees: they were guilty of the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.”

    a. The Characteristics of the Sin

    This sin has three characteristics. First, this sin was specifically directed against the Holy Spirit.

    The second characteristic is that this sin was determined by a special situation, showing the extreme wickedness of the Pharisees who were really the ones who sided with Satan. The special situation was that this sin was committed while Yeshua was present on earth, and while He was offering Himself to Israel as their Messiah. This sin requires the visible, physical presence of the Messiah, offering to Israel the Kingdom of the Jewish prophets. Throughout this passage, there is an emphasis upon this generation. The emphasis is that this generation was uniquely guilty of this sin.

    And the third characteristic of this sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is that it is eternally damning. There is no forgiveness. It is the unpardonable sin.

    b. The Nature and Content of the Sin

    With these characteristics in mind, what exactly is the nature and content of the unpardonable sin or the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit? First, IT IS NOT AN INDIVIDUAL SIN, but a national sin. It was committed by the Jewish generation of Jesus’ day and cannot be applied to subsequent Jewish generations. Secondly, the content of the unpardonable sin is the national rejection by Israel of the Messiahship of Yeshua while He was present, on the grounds of being demon possessed.

    There are five key ramifications that should be noted concerning the nature and content of this sin. First, this generation, the generation of Jesus’ day, was guilty of the unpardonable sin.

    The second ramification is that the sin of the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit was the national rejection by Israel of His Messiahship while He was present, on the grounds of being demon possessed.

    The third ramification is that it was a national sin committed by the Jewish generation of Yeshua’s day.

    The fourth ramification is that it was not an individual sin of that day, nor is it a sin anyone can commit today. On this point the Bible is very clear: no matter what sin anyone commits, then or now, every sin is forgivable to that individual who will come to God through the Messiah. But for the nation of that generation, as a nation, it was unpardonable.

    And the fifth ramification is that it was unforgivable and judgment was set against that generation. Judgment came in A.D. 70 with the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple and with the world wide dispersion of the Jewish people.

    c. The Results of the Sin

    There were two results of this unpardonable sin. First, the offer of the Messianic Kingdom was withdrawn. It would not be set up in their day, but will be re offered to a future Jewish generation that will accept it. And secondly, the A.D. 70 judgment was certain and nothing could alter it.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Terry, that is a good alternate view and I held it for many years. I highly respect Dr. Fruchtenbaum, and would not argue with him! There are a few other reasons I hold to the view I do now, the primary reason being that if Fruchtenbaum is right, it does not appear that anyone is able to commit this sin today. I suppose that could be a good thing, but the passage in Matthew seems to indicate that people of other generations would also be able to commit it.

  • Carl

    For the past 3 months i have and still feel Guilty, i have been under attacks from satan that started back in september 2011. voices keep saying holy spirit is Demonic. and then says i am Demonic and i am going to Hell. when this first happened i screamed out loud and started weeping. wailing and crying… then before the voices it was unwanted thoughts saying the samething.

    i am still afraid i have ‘committed this sin’ because i allowed this to happen. i am still afraid. and i did stop going to church and stop reading my bible. then i recently started reading the word. and the voices came back. and i know Now it is satan trying to get me to fall away.

    this has caused me great stress and depression. can somebody please reply to me?

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Carl,
      You might be dealing with some depression, and if possible, I would recommend you go talk to a professional counselor. Be very careful about going to a pastor, because depending on where you go, they may say you have committed the sin, or are possessed by a demon, or some other such nonsense.

      In fact, it sounds like maybe you have already become the victim of some very bad teaching about sin, Satan, and God’s grace.

      So let’s start at the very beginning.

      The first thing is to make sure you have the gift of eternal life, and everything which comes with this, including the indwelling Holy Spirit.

      The gift of eternal life is not earned or worked for. There is nothing you must DO to get it, but simply receive it by believing in Jesus for it. Do you believe this? Do you believe that you have eternal life because Jesus has given it to you? If you have a Bible nearby, find and read John 3:16, 5:24, and 6:47 and then let me know what you understand these verses to be saying.

      • Carl

        what do you believe? i just dont know anymore

        • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

          Carl,
          God will not abandon you. Try reading those 3 verses I mentioned, and then talk to God openly and honestly about your struggles, doubts, and fears.

          • carl

            do you believe i blasphemed the holy spirit

          • http://www.mopcolorado.blogspot.com FedExMOP

            Carl,

            These are some very difficult questions and there is not a simple yes or no answer. Nothing that you have written so far would lead m eto believe that you have committed the unpardonable sin. In fact, it is my belief that the only sin that cannot be forgiven is to die having resisted the work of the Holy Spirit your whole life. In the unbeliever, the Holy Spirit’s job is to convict us of our sinfulness and our need for Christ’s work on our behalf. I believe that the blaspheming of the Holy Spirit is in essence ignoring or refusing to accept His work in our lives.

            If you have accepted Christ’s offer of salvation, you cannot commit the unpardonable sin. If you have not, you may be saved as long as you live (John 11:26). If you have believed in the person and work of Christ for your eternal destiny, then there is no longer any question of unpardonable sin.

            I hope this is helpful to you. I will pray that God quiets the voice of the enemy so you can more clearly hear the calling of the Holy Spirit.

            God Bless,
            FedEx,
            President,
            Men of Praise Motorcycle Ministry.

          • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

            Carl,

            I could not answer better than FedExMOP, and I agree with what he wrote.

            God wants to love you and be with you for eternity! No matter what!

    • Alec

      How are you feeling now Carl? If you’re still feeling the same way you HAVE to remember like you have that this is a seed the enemy is trying to plant. I’ve had the exact same thing happen to me, they set me up and tried to utterly destroy my faith. I took a hard blow but we should not focus on what we temporarily lost, we can’t give them the glory. If you’re still experiencing this try to focus on Christ alone, remember that he is a good God and a God of love. Worship him by loving others and take your time getting to know him again. I’m walking the same walk you are or have been but we have to trust in Christ.

      • carl

        @alec i am doing fine

    • anonymous

      It sounds like you may have a religious form of an anxiety disorder called OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder). Blasphemous intrusive thoughts are a common symptom that people with religious OCD experience. Check out: Christianforums.com, scroll down to the Mental Health section of the site, and click on the Obsessive Compulsive Disorder link. You may find that there are a number of other people who experience similar things.

      Also, you may want to check out the International OCD Foundation: http://www.ocfoundation.org/ to read more technical information about OCD and find providers who can assess and diagnose and treat the disorder. If you cannot afford conventional treatment for OCD, and through you reading other peoples’ experiences it seems to you highly likely that you have OCD, there are cognitive behavioral therapy steps you can do at home that can reduce your symptoms. You can go to this website which gives four steps you can do on your own time: http://hope4ocd.com/foursteps.php

      God bless you.

      • carl

        i do Not Have OCD Or a Mental Illness thank you for your offense

        • anonymous

          Hi Carl, I really was not trying to be offensive, and I apologize that it came off that way and I offended you.

          I have actually have religious OCD myself. I have seen countless people with religious OCD describe their symptoms and what they go through. I am not diagnosing you; there is no way that I can definitively say what you are going through. However, blasphemous intrusive thoughts are a prominent documented symptom of religious OCD. What you described sounds textbook similar to what people with religious OCD suffer through.

          If a person experiences religious OCD, it does not mean that the person has a “character defect” or that they are “mentally unstable”. Actually, people with OCD are known to be of above average intelligence, and highly aware of their surroundings. (This is different than someone with mental illness who is psychotic and has mentally broken off from reality.) Martin Luther, a man who has been noted as having deep spiritual conviction regarding Christianity, as been indicated as someone who suffered with religious OCD. Even today, he is considered positively as one of the most influencial Christian figures in history.

          OCD has pathology that is somewhat out of the control of the sufferer. It largely has to do with a neurological glitch in the cortico-striato-thalamo circuitry in the brain. A sufferer may get a number of unwanted intrusive thoughts. In OCD the amygdala is hyperactive and responds with an immediate fight or flight response to these thoughts. (It is normal for a person to experience revulsion at an ugly intrusive thought appearing once in a while, however they are usually able to dismiss the thought as weird). However, with OCD, someone may experience emotions like terror or panic and ruminate excessively on whether or not they meant the thought, and or take precautions to avoid having the thought again (like avoiding Bible study – if that’s when the thought occurred before *which would be an example of an avoidance compulsion done to alleviate the anxiety). Resulting, the brain may generate more of these intrusive thoughts because the fear has not been dealt with. There is nothing wrong with wanting to please God and taking measures to do so. However, OCD is opportunistic and will generate thoughts with content that are usually the opposite of what a person MOST cares about, or thoughts will be generated that have to do with what the person MOST fears.

          I started experiencing symptoms of OCD about 10 years ago, my symptoms were few and far in between. I did not know I was experiencing OCD, and I certainly would not have thought I had it because the thoughts were few and far in between and I was not like people you see on tv or hear about who have it. However, over the past 10 years the disorder has become increasingly worse and has hugely interfered with my life. I never thought I would be here 10 years ago. OCD for some becomes increasingly worse and more frequent with time. This is why it may be a good idea, if you are having symptoms (like the ones you described), to look into the idea of privately consulting with a professional who knows about the disorder. IF you have it and catch it early, you can use CBT therapy to help reduce the symptoms so it does not become increasingly worse.

          From your post, it sounds like you did not want these intrusive thoughts, in fact just the opposite. That shows that you are a person who loves God and wants more than anything to do the right thing. I am not trying to shame you by suggesting you read up more on religious OCD to better understand it, otherwise I would be shaming myself as I actually have the disorder. I was simply trying to help by providing information from my own experiences and knowledge base as a resource for you to look into if you so choose to.

          Whatever you do or don’t do, either way I hope you find peace.

          God bless you.

        • http://www.universalatonement.com ross marshall

          Dude! the one supposedly with OCD????
          You are normal! LOLOL, A Normal believer that sometimes has doubts; sometimes gets mad and curses, and such. I had a devout friend, very religious have mental pictures of Jesus on Cross and St. Mary doing weird stuff to him – this would pop in and attack his mind. Paul says, fear not!!!!! many of your THOUGHTS YEE are NOT the author of! Mental thoughts FLOAT through and about our world, from and between people, to and fro – they are IN THE AIR (like the Ackashic Records – the global humanit pool of thoghts) and in certain conditions, we become “RADIO-Receivers” to these thoughts. I myself will sometimes get FLASHES of pictures of hideous images, and religious ones too! Even while driving where jesus turns into the exercists girl. !!! LOLOL. Boy, my brain must be reall desparate to be creative??? Horrible ones! I have learned to laugh BECAUSE I used to make horror movies and consider my thoughts LIKE A MOVIE STUDIO – it can run rampant! and bad too!!!!! So, STOP stressing that “YOU ARE THE ONE GUILTY” of these OCD thoughts. Just think, admit, stop denying, laugh at them, and maybe say: “WOW!!! that’s terrible! I just witnessed and watched “THE EXERCIST”…. and go about your loving christian life, even with all it’s defaults. Hey, you wouldn’t believe the sick blasphemy that spews from my lips sometimes, when I have STUMPED my little toe real real real bad to bleeding on a metal bed frame!!!!! OOOOhhhhMY GOD!
          So, JOIN the blasphemy party, and relize your forgiveness.
          PS. IFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF God still held against us such, quote: “Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit”, THEN???, NOT A DAMNED SOUL WOULD BE GOING TO HEAVEN and Satan would have ALL MANKIND! Now, again, why would he pick on just a few people then, IF we are ALL guilty of this?
          Well, I have not met a man yet that has not CURSED some real bad crap!!!!
          So, wake up, and STOP being a self flagulating self punishing woes-me petty sobbing, victim, and get out and tell people about the good news.

          • http://www.universalatonement.com ross marshall

            Hmmm? Maybe it is Christian Territs Syndrome? My mouth sometimes slips and says real bad things, and just as quickly I catch myself and ask, DANG??? where the hell did that come from.Well, even though Jesus atoned for us and saves us, we are still CORRUPTED in BODY and MIND – but our SPIRITS have been made PERFECT. I realize there is a part of me, my old Man, that still fights against my NEW MAN, and thus I find I have TWO natures. One wills to do good, but does just the opposite; the other wills not, but does what God wants!?//???!@#$%^&* hell I don’t know!!??? I’m just a rotten sinner saved by GRACE! BY GRACE!!!!!!! and NOT BY WORKS or human efforts, or human merits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            If and when I ever stand before GOD at the ”works” judgment, and He asks me – Boy, you did spread the bible, gospel, preach and such, but you lived a pretty rotten pathetic life???? What yee say to that?
            My reply would be:
            YES SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT’S RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            Now go talk to Jesus, your Son, about my RANSOM!

          • anonymous

            Actually, I do have religious Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Your comments show that you do not understand the disorder. It is different than the weird thoughts that a normal person may experience. Some of my worst times with the disorder were having blasphemous intrusive thoughts 50 – 100 times a day along with compulsions to go with it. The disorder got so bad I was no longer able to eat or make decisions for myself. That is not normal. I understand you have a counter perception, but please, do not invalidate my real life experiences. You don’t know me, and you do not know the hell I have suffered through with this disorder. It wasn’t anything close to the severity it is now 10 years ago, but the disorder sometimes becomes increasingly worse to the point it is disabling. I was simply trying to offer the poster a resource to look into, because what he was describing was as I mentioned textbook similar to OCD pathology. I suggested it is worth looking into because my OCD started out with a few weird bad intrusive thoughts and has become something I live with day in and day out experiencing numerous intrusive thoughts a day and compulsions that go with it. I fight this disorder everyday. My life has become almost all about intrusive thoughts and CBT therapy to counter them. I am getting better now that I am treating the disorder, but I would hate for someone to have to suffer as much as I have because of not looking into it and getting treatment early on. OCD is actually a very common disorder, but many sufferers do not seek a diagnosis right off because they are afraid of stigma about conditions that affect mental health, and because they are afraid of disclosing the content of their thoughts to another person for fear that they are crazy, etc. The disorder is treatable though, but it is key to catch it early before it gets out of hand if someone is having tell-tale symptoms.

            God bless.

      • Alec Malcolmson

        Hey, I wish that were true. But I can’t doubt the spirutal wickedness that exists in this world and from all that has happened to me and cannot see a reasonable cause for such doubting and blasphemy. I’ve been spiritually attacked and still am now and that’s what I believe to be the cause for such things. The thing is, is that it’s not just happening to me but a whole host of other people right now who are trying to get the word out of Jesus Christ SOON return. While no man knoweth the date or the hour, God gave me a couple months ago two words, Isaiah and Revelation. I was and still am such a new Christian that I hadn’t even known about Isaiah before when this happened. I swear to God and all that is holy that the message is he is coming soon. Very soon. And so many of us are not ready. Prophecy is fulfilling itself as we speak and the tribulation is near.

        Thank you for your concern, please pray for me that the wicked spirits wont harm me anymore and more importantly if you don’t believe what I am saying I ask you to do this one thing, possibly tonight, pray to God and ask him if this is true, please do this. It’s all I ask.

        God bless you, kind soul.

    • Terry

      Carl, it sounds to me like you might be experiencing demonic oppression.

  • Mark Duncan

    Paul the apostle was a pharisee right? Yes and a zealous and committed one at that. Can we presume that Paul was one of those Jesus was speaking to about this sin? Not sure what this means but it is just a thought.

    Enjoyed your message. The Gospel of Grace and mercy endures all of our doubts and failings.

    In Christ

    Mark

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Mark,
      It is very possible. There is some indication in 1 Corinthians (or is it Galatians?) that Paul may have even been a member of the Sanhedrin as well. We cannot be too dogmatic about it, since the Scriptures are not crystal clear one way or the other, but it is is interesting to consider.

  • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com ross marshall

    Mark 3.28-29
    28 “Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter;”
    29 ”but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin.” (NASB)

    Every orthodox theologian worth their salt will quot the above verse to prove Biblical Universal Reconciliation false. They usually claim that Universalists state that there is no such thing as an unforgiveable sin. Because, all people who have ever lived will ultimately be reconciled to God; All people who have ever lived must thus be forgiven. But, they point out that verses in Matthew and Mark state that there is a sin that will never be forgiven – it is an eternal sin. Therefore, Universalism is a false salvation theology.

    This is a straw-man argument. Because, Universalists do not say that there is not taught here an unforgiveable sin, or more literally an ”un-pardoned” sin. The above passage actually is very clear that there was a sin that was un-pardonable – but, Universalists teach that it was only an un-pardonable sin for a certain period of time. Actually, most of orthodoxy also teaches that it was only applicable to the days of Christ. Thus, the anti-Universalists present a false premise only to end with a false conclusion, though the logic is sound.

    WHAT DO THESE VERSES SAY?
    Now, what do these verses in Matthew 12:31-32 and Mark 3:28-29 really say? Christ, in the first place, positively affirms that “all manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men.” That is, ”the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:” And,”whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him.” But, it is also positively declared by him, who cannot lie, that ”whosoever speaketh or blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost, never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin.” And, that this particular sin ”shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.”

    WHAT DO THESE VERSES MEAN?
    Now, just because a sin is not pardoned by Christ in no way disproves universal reconciliation. If we look a little deeper from the shallowness we are steeped in, we might see that this non-pardoning is for an age and for another age that follows. And that this restraint on forgiveness does not go beyond these two ages, for we are very familiar with the expression ”in this world or the world to come.” The second ”world” is not in the plural. Thus, we see only two worlds or ages.

    Conservative traditionalists love to use the NASB and other similar translations to support their cause for eternal damnation. Yet, coincidentally, in translating their versions they just happen to leave out certain words which are in the Greek. They even add word not in the Greek that change the meaning of the verse sometimes to mean the very opposite! Let us really look at the Greek texts of these two passages and see what has been left out or changed by the translators, plus see whether we can correct any mistakes, if any. Let us read the passages in the Greek and see what results in a proper ”literal” translation.

    Mark 3.28-29 (LITERAL TRANSLATION)

    amEn legO humin hoti panta aphethEsetai ta hamartEmata tois huiois tOn
    Amen, I am saying to you that ALL shall be pardoned THE penalties of sins the SONS of the
    Verily I say to you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of

    anthropon kai blasphEmiai osas an blasphEmEsOsin hos de an
    humans and blasphemies as much as ever they should be blaspheming who YET EVER
    men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that

    blasphEmEsE eis to pneuma to hagion ouk echei aphesin eis ton aiOna
    should be blaspheming into the spirit the Holy not is-having pardon into the EON(Age)
    shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness x x x

    all enochos estin aiOniou kriseOs (Greek)
    but liable is of-eonian judging (Lit. Ver.)
    but is in danger of eternal damnation. (AV)

    Verses 28 and 29 present a contrast between all sins being forgiven and one sin that will not be pardoned. This sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, that is, that Jesus did His miracles by the power of the devil. Verse 29 shows that there is an exception to all sins being forgiven by using the word ”but” (Greek ”de”). This word qualifies that there is an exception to the first statement. Now, the verses do not say that ”all sins are forgiveable”, [i.e. ''ALL sins shall be forgiven'' (AV)] but rather, it says that ”ALL [humans] shall be pardoned THE penalties of sins” [i.e. ''that ALL shall be pardoned THE penalties of sins the SONS of the humans'' (CLV)]. If one uses the erred Authorized translation we ‘hear’ a slight contradiction. One minute ALL SINS are forgiveable, then one that is not. What is said here is ALL humans can be forgiven all sins but one!
    Yes, this one sin will not be pardoned. Now, how may Universalists explain this? It shall be seen that this one sin, which is not to be pardoned does not in any way undo God’s will in reconciling all mankind. Notice that in the above translation certain words are left untranslated, and for good reasons too. Look at the untranslated ” x x x ” empty space in the follow study below.

    Many translators make the Matthew 12:32 parallel passage to Mark say, that this sin against the Holy Ghost, ”shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come.” But, this is a very poor if not deceptive translation.

    Here we have the Greek word ”aioni” translated ”WORLD”, an English word that should be used for the Greek word Kosmon (‘system’). Yet, Limitarians prefer to flop words and meanings around to avoid confessing to ”aioni” meaning AGE in every context it is found. How can the adjective ”aioni” mean ”eternal” in one passage, but then also mean the noun ”world” in another? It can only do this out of a newspeak lexicon. Let us look at the Matthew passage.

    Another superimposition is found stuffed over the word ”mellonti”, a Greek word meaning ”impending” or ”being about to”. Yes, the verse alludes to a second aioni, like the first one, but does need to mention it. It is implied. It’s like saying: ”this aioni and the about to be.” The AV shows us that the translators did consider the word ‘aioni’ to be a noun or a ”thing” that had a limited size. It seems that they did not want to carry this idea of the noun designating a ‘thing” that would have a limited time amount. That would contradict their usage of ”forever” or ”ever”, & etc.

    Matthew 12:32 (LITERAL TRANSLATION)

    ouk aphethEsetai autO oute en toutO tO aiOni oute en tO [ mellonti (GREEK) [''mellonti'' also can mean ''to-being-about'' or ''being-about-to'']
    NOT it shall be being pardoned him, neither in this the EON/age or in the one-impending (LIT)
    shall not be pardoned him, neither in this AGE nor in the which is impending.’(CLV)
    it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come. (AV)

    TO WHAT EXTENT THIS APPLIES
    In Mark it is said of him that blasphemes against the Holy Ghost, that he “hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.” Now, says Mr. Guild, ”there is no language here expressed that alludes to eternity. It is simply signified, that such an one would not be likely to receive forgiveness or amendment in that age; consequently would be in danger of the judgment or condemnation coming upon them.” They actually were in danger of (aiOniou kriseOs) ”age-lasting judgment”, which was certain to overtake them.

    Matthew says that such a person shall not be forgiven in ”this world or the world to come.” The words used here are ( aiOni oute en tO mellonti ) ”EON/age nor in the one-impending.” Rather, what Matthew is really saying is ”neither in this age nor in the age to come”; that is, according Mr. Guild, ” ‘neither in this age when the law of Moses subsists, nor in that also when the kingdom of heaven, which is at hand, shall succeed to it.’ This is a strong way of expressing how difficult a thing it was for such a Jewish sinner to obtain pardon. Christ does not say to him that blasphemes and then repents, but only to those that blaspheme; and, therefore, he means those that continue in their blasphemy, for with God there is no sin that is un-pardonable. This “age” (aioni) was the Jewish dispensation at that time and that which was to come meant the Christian, which was going to be established. Christ meant neither in this ‘dispensation, viz., the Jewish, nor in that which is to come, viz., the Christian.’ ”

    COMPARISON OF MATTHEW WITH MARK’S PASSAGE

    ouk echei aphesin eis ton aiOna
    not is-having pardon into the EON (Age) = makes too much sense; contradicts tradition.
    hath never forgiveness x x x = no one will believe; we’ve created the Cassandra Complex.
    hath not forgiveness for the world?) = does not make sense
    hath not forgiveness for THIS world?) = does not make sense
    hath never forgiveness, for this eternal) = does not make sense
    hath never forgiveness for x ever) = awkward, but could work. But one would have to remove ”ton” the definite grammatical article THE and change
    ”aioni” from a noun into an adjective.

    Theologians my speculate as to what “ages” are being referred to, whether they be a reference to this material world or to the post mortem world after physical death. But, no matter which position is taken or argued for, there is surly this second ”impending” age mentioned. For, ”Aioni” is a Greek term referring to ”an Age-period” and not to some eternity. It does not mean forever, ever, eternal, everlasting, world, or never-ending. How foolish to think that ”aioni” means eternal, for if this were true, we should have the verse say: ”shall not be pardoned him, neither in this ETERNAL not in the ETERNAL which is impending.” Therefore, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will be forgiven after the second AGE (EON) mentioned. We state that Mark 3:29 must be interpreted in light of the proper translation of Matt. 12:32.

    Apparently, there has been some fiddling with the Greek between these two passages. The translators for Mark totally leave out ”into (for) the EON”, because it is almost impossible to use any other word other than AGE. Notice that the Concordant Literal New Testament above gives what the translators left out, from the Greek . . . “is having no pardon for the eon.” Yet, very reputable scholars do not translate these words! Notice the majority of Bibles in use today are done by Eternal Tormentists. Notice also that in all these cases these Greek words are not translated!

    TO WHOM IT APPLIES
    We will now inquire, upon the admission that the above texts teach the doctrine of endless misery, how many persons can possibly be exposed to that state. For, the subject of the “blasphemy against the Holy Ghost” is often brought up as an indisputable objection to the doctrine of universal reconciliation. A full commentary by Mr. E. E. Guild explains the extent of the application of this postponed forgiveness.

    ”Among all the sins and blasphemies ever perpetrated on earth, or any which may be committed in all coming time, there is but one solitary exception; viz., the sin against the Holy Ghost. Reader, how many do you suppose have committed this sin? When this question is settled, we have data from which to determine, at the least, how many will eventually suffer endless misery. What shall we do with all the wicked rebels, from Cain down to the period of our Saviour? For the Holy Ghost was not presented, either for man to receive or reject, until the day of miracles by Christ. And what shall we do with all the wicked unbelievers, drunkards, murderers and revelers, from Christ’s day down to the present period? And how shall we dispose of all the blasphemous infidels and atheists, from the beginning of the world until now? For all manner of sins and blasphemies shall be forgiven unto men, with one exception. Upon the premises we have admitted the only result is this: none ever were, or ever can be, sent to hell, save those very few of the Jews who stood by, saw Christ work miracles and accused him of doing the same by the power of Beelzebub, the prince of devils. It is not possible to involve any others, for all, excepting those, “shall be forgiven.” In Mark 3:22, it is said, “And the Scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of devils casteth he out devils.” The sole foundation and only reason why our Saviour made the expression, “he that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness,” is based in this verse and in the expression, ” by the prince of devils casteth he out devils.” As evidence of this, observe the 30th verse; after having stated the result of their expression (which was sin against the Holy Ghost), he adds, “Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.” This solves the problem why the expression, “sin against the Holy Ghost,” was made at all; and necessarily confines that sin to the very few who had the privilege of seeing him perform those miracles by the power of God, and at the same time attributed it to the power of Beelzebub, the prince of devils. This is the only conclusion to which we possibly can arrive. Hence, upon the admission of the common opinion of this subject, it proves too much for those who adopt it. It would reduce their hell to a mere speck, and its inmates to a simple unit. It would also overstock heaven with millions upon millions of those which they had falsely supposed committed this un-pardonable sin.

    Mr. Guild continues to say that, ”When our Lord says that such a sin has no forgiveness, he is to be understood that the body shall be destroyed, as under the Jewish dispensation; while mercy may still be extended to the soul. Notice that Christ prays that they all be forgiven for they knew not what they were doing. The punishment of presumptuous sins under the Jewish law, to which our Lord evidently alludes, certainly did not extend to the damnation of the soul, though the body was destroyed; therefore though there was no such forgiveness to be extended to this crime as to absolve the man from the punishment of temporal death, yet, on repentance, mercy might be extended to the soul, and every sin may be repented of under the Gospel dispensation.”

    Mr. Guild concludes with: ”The fact is this, their blasphemy was a slanderous reproach against Christ and the power by which he cast out demons (cured diseases); and the nature of this crime was so malignant, that justly they deserved strict condemnation, either under the administration of that age or the next one to come, the Gospel Age. Such was the infamy of their hearts, that they were actually in danger of remaining unmoved, and consequently of suffering the common calamity of their age and nation, as a just retribution of their slanderous and malignant conduct. No intimations are here or anywhere else given, that God will ”eternally” cast off or damn any one. Neither is there such a sentence as ” the finally impenitent” in all the word of God.” [E. E. GUILD. ''The Universalist's Book Of Reference''. 1901]

    CONCLUSIONS:
    These passages do teach that there was an unforgiveable sin in the time of Christ and this Universalists do not deny. But, the passages do not nullify God’s plan of universal reconciliation of all mankind as the Traditionalists suppose. The passages have been incorrectly translated and do very clearly foster a false view of the scope and extent of this un-forgiveness. The proof lies in the hap-hazard usage and interchangeability of the words ”eternal” and ”world”, an obvious blunder of changing nouns into adjectives or using the wrong noun. Last of all, the verses do not speak to nor do they apply to present day human beings, as most agree humanity is under the dispensation of grace and thus, there are no sins that are unforgiveable. Christ died for the SIN of the world, and after he died ALL sins are covered under this atonement through repentance. Yet, before His crucification one may rightly agree with our Lord that, ”he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost is not having pardon in this Age, nor into the Impending Age, but is liable of Age-lasting judgment.”

  • Dylan L

    I need help. I have been a Christian but all of the sudden I doubt and revbel ga st god in my mind. I have had the un

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Dylan,

      Missed the rest of your point there…but I get the gist. Look, God loves you more than you will ever know! Doubts are okay, but go to God with them, telling Him about your doubts! He is not scared off by doubt. Tell Him, “God, I believe; help my unbelief.” That is a prayer He loves to hear.

    • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com ross

      There is Eternal Security and ”Assurance of salvation”. The first is a doctrinal statement of fact – something not so much experienced as realized. The second is our emotional feeling or response, depending on situation and mood. No one has 100% assurance all the time, but a THE RULE we can know we are His – even from memory of our being different than when we did not know Him. Doubt is ”an exception to the RULE” and can be looked at as an intrusion into our assurance realm. memory is good at throwing out doubt. One does NOT DOUBT what He does not actually KNOW. Just as one does not really HATE what they do not really love. Love and hate seem to be temporary partners in this fallen state. Even so, assurance and doubt are the Cain & Abel factors in our own internal battle in fighting the good fight of faith. Grace increases even more where doubt and sin raise their ugly heads – an insurance gift from God. Q. A TEST: Can you ”disbelieve” you ever knew God? can you make yourself believe you never had a Mother or Father?

      • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

        Ross,

        That’s right. A lot of people put faith in the emotional side, but it isn’t. It is being certain of a known fact. When you know something, you believe it. Sometimes, we can be persuaded or convinced to believe something against our will even, based on evidence.

  • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com ross

    QUOTE: ”In fact, it is my belief that the only sin that cannot be forgiven is to die having resisted the work of the Holy Spirit your whole life.” –FedEx
    ANSWER: This is pure hog wash.
    As long as one is un-believing, they will not enter God’s Kingdom. But God forgives even our un-belief. And no one maintains 100% pure constant knowing belief. What we ARE talking about is someone who is not enlightened (saved) and who cannot believe yet, until God opens his eyes. The Evangel brings ”ability” to hear and listen, but not the action – the Message is just a message, with only enough power to change the hearer from heathen to ”hearer”. From this point, its between them and the Holy Spirit as to whether and when one becomes enlightened. Ultimately, Jesus DRAWS ALL unto Himself, breaks down unbelief, and imparts or ”imputes” this ability to respond to the effective Holy Spirit. In the end, all unbelief breaks down under God influences, so that God may reconcile ALL unto Himself, that He may be ALL in All. Al, shall stand and see Him for who He really is, and their will not be any more desire to resist or disbelieve. PEOPLE ARE NOT cut off eternally when they die in un-belief / non-belief / no-belief / dis-belief. What of those who had no evangel preached to them in THIS LIFE?
    Well, THE GOSPEL IS PREACHED TO THE DEAD as well! One the most profound and clear verses substantiating the teaching that human consciousness continues after physical death and that even the dead are still evangelized, is 1 Peter chapter 4, verse 6. Listen to what it says.
    ””For (into) for this evangel is brought to the dead (those that are below) also,
    that they may be judged, indeed, according to men (ones above on earth)
    in (that are still in the) flesh, yet should be living according to God, in
    spirit.”” – Concordant Literal Translation
    So, if the preachers misrepresent or misinform some, as MOST do today, the dead are properly ministered to, until they do understand. ”ALL FLESH shall see the salvation of God.” Ps. 65:2; Luke 3:5-6.

    • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com ross

      PS. Very little known verses!!! Why the churches do NOT read and teach on such verses????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
      TELL ME! Answer contrary to this???
      Hosea 13:14

      ”From the hand of (the) Sheol (HELL, hades) will I ransom them; from death will I redeem them. Where is your plague, O’ Death? Where is your sting, O’ Shaul? Regret shall be concealed from my eyes.”

      [''I WILL ransom them from the power of the grave [Hell = Sheol = Hades, 'unseen realm']; I WILL redeem them from death: O’ Death, I WILL be thy [death's] plagues; O’ Grave [SHEOL, Hell], I WILL be thy [death & the grave's] destruction.”

      • http://HalleluiahAnyhow.com Grateful Al

        I much prefer your second version. Adam Clarke comments: “O grave, I will be thy destruction – I will put an end to thy dreary domination by rising from the dead, and bringing life and immortality to life by my Gospel, and by finally raising from the death the whole human race in the day of the general resurrection.
        שאול sheol, which we translate grave, is the state of the dead. מות maveth, which we translate death, is the principle of corruption that renders the body unfit to be longer the tenement of the soul, and finally decomposes it. Sheol shall be destroyed, for it must deliver up all its dead. Maveth shall be annihilated, for the body shall be raised incorruptible. See the use which the apostle makes of this passage, 1Co_15:54, 1Co_15:55; but he does not quote from the Hebrew, nor from any of the ancient versions. He had to apply the subject anew; and the Spirit, which had originally given the words, chose to adapt them to the subject then in hand, which was the resurrection of the dead in the last day. Instead of דבריך debareycha, thy plagues, one of my oldest MSS., ninety-six of Kennicott’s and thirty-two of De Rossi’s, have דברך debarcha, thy plague, that which shall carry thee off, as the plague does them who are affected by it. To carry off, carry away, is one of the regular meanings of the verb דבר dabar.

        What can possilby be so confusing about: Heb 9:27 “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
        Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”

  • Dillon

    I have been saved my whole life! But when I was taught about the unpardonable sin I still couldn’t resist the temptation to think it! Then a few years later at 25 2 years after I learned about this sin I verbally screamed it out in anger! But still to this day any time I try to live in sin I feel as empty and without life as I could even imagine! And there would be no imagination cuz in sin I feel like I don’t even exsist! It’s a bad feeling I can tell you that! Does this mean the Holy Spirit is still molding me? I mean if I were rejected by God and was is sin I’d feel just fine no matter what the sin right? Plz let me know?

    • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com ross

      I think we ALL should not worry so much about ”being IN Sin”, because we are gonna sin oftf and on… it would be better to just go about our simple lives, and CONCERN ourselves with stuff that is of God’s minsitry and have FUN doing it. If we spend AL:L our lives fighting SIN all the time, arn’t we wasting GOD’S time? Wasting time we COULD be doing fun stuff, ministry work, occupations, vocations, relationships, etc. And besides, WHERE is GRACE? FORGIVENESS? SELF-FORGIVENESS? LIBERTY IN CHRIST?… Nope!, There is NO SIN so powerful that it could take us away from His atonement work. YES, I believe, all people do have some conscience, but those who don’t seem to KNOW Him yet, really NEVER worry or fret over their salvation. You never question THAT which you don’t know. EXAMPLE: Everyone is born with cancer cells. When we get older, we MAY actually have cancer and not know it – do we worry about the cancer we do NOT KNOW about, yet? No. THEN, one day, the DOC tells us we have cancer. OK, do most people worry about cancer when they are told they have it? YES! Q. Are you atoned for? YES. Do you sometimes worry about it as if it COULD BE a myth? Yes. Everyone still has the flesh, and that flesh still carries ”feelings” of not being saved. Thus, there is a small part of us all that still will contemplate atheism. Just like an atheist will sometimes dabble in religious talk and thoughts. BUT, they do NOT worry about it like we do. They do not worry about NOT KNOWING v. we worry sometimes about BOTH!!!! I hope this helps. YES, YOU’RE A NORMAL CHRISTIAN! LOLOL :o )

      • Alec

        I had sinned this too, or thought it at least, and I just felt dreadful but God is so good that a couple nights later I awoke from a dream and he gave me the words, “Repent. Repent. Repent, fallen one.” God does and will forgive you of all sins, the harder part is forgiving ourselves and moving on. Like you Dillon, I couldn’t resist the urge to think it and I was battling a demonic force before hand like Carl trying to plant seeds to suggest the same thing, it’s terrible I know. You have to understand we have forgiveness through Christ’s salvation.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Dillon,

      Yes, you are right. If you have believed in Jesus for eternal life, the Holy Spirit is still with you and in you.

      I am not sure what you were taught about the unpardonable sin, but from the little you have shared, it sounds like you were taught incorrectly.

      You have not been rejected by God. You are fully and freely forgiven. God loves you still.

  • http://www.universalatonement.com ross marshall

    Unpardonable sin: Look, Jesus came to take away (all) the SIN of the world. To say there is an unpardonable sin for eternity, is to cut the promise short. It is unpardoned for ”only the ages of the ages: This age time and the next one; after that it IS pardoned. READ THE BOOK@!! in all its contexts. Some verses CLARIFY others. this one does not define the other. It would led to the above contradiction. Plus, Jesus prayed for those very unpardonable sinners – that His father forgive – for they knew not what they were doing.

  • http://www.universalatonement.com ross marshall

    Come on people: Do Thomas Chain reference studies on words such as word studies. Take ‘SIN” and look up all relative verses. Then find the ones that DEFINE the term; then find ones that define the EXTENT; then what christ does to ALL! All ”tings” have time limits on them, including SIN. Especially in context of jesus ”TAKEING SIN AWY”. here ”SIN” is in the singular tense form – so all sins (plural) are considered by him as ONE SIN – ”the SIN of the world” – i.e. of mankind.
    Thsi sets a parameter for the word ”unpardonable” to only be such for a ”time”. QUOTE: ”In this world and the next”, but NO FURTHER!!!!!!!!!! believe it or not, there is ANOTHER world after that last ”next” one.
    Example” THIS WOPRLS = NOW
    THE NEXT WORLD = the Grave
    The world after the grave = then resurrection world. REV.20:13
    Dead and Hell give uop their ownership of the DEAD.!!!! Even those unpardoned sinners.
    here and then, at the resurrection and judgements of works, the unpardonable sin is then pardoned, because it is NOW outside that parameter -zone of unforgivness.
    DOES THIS MAKE SENSE>????
    Otherwise, jesus’ prayer that the Father forgive them is a prayer made IN VAIN and in VANITY.
    FIRST: Study the Greek Scriptures until you rsolve negatives – for the News is GOOD NEWS and GLAD TIDINGS of Great JOY to be brought towards ALL MEN to the ends of the earth, and beyond.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Ross,

      I wouldn’t have stated it exactly the same way, but I pretty much agree. I do believe that some people will be eternally separated from God, but this will not be due to unforgiven sin. People who are eternally separated from God are just as fully forgiven as are those who spend eternity with Him.

      • http://www.universalatonement.com ross marshall

        An oximoron: =
        ”eternally separated” = ”fully forgiven” ????
        =
        ”I feel so GOOD, that it depresses me.”
        ”My Mom loves me so much, she told me she hated me.”
        ”God so FULLY forgave me, that he eternally separated me.”
        ”God did not elect ‘will’ me to believe, so now I am damned because I did not believe in Him.” Or, as we would make God say:
        ”Sir, it is impossible to believe in Me,
        if I do not elect you to believe in Me;
        Now, I did not elect you to believe in Me,
        and I am thus, damning you to eternal Hell
        because you refused to believe in me.”
        Or,
        ”Sir, I am now damning you to Hell forever,
        because you did not free-willfully believe in me.
        And so, now, even if you from this point want to believe in Me,
        I just can’t allow that.”
        Or, ”I, The Lord God Call everyone (offer irresistable grace to everyone);
        but I am only choosing a few;
        The rest of you I gift with the gift of eternal resistance in the pits of Hell.”
        But, fear not, I will bring forth death and Hell
        and they shall give you all up, to the judgement day of works. Rev. 20:13
        = Oximoron: ”Hell is an everlasting place for the dead,
        until all the dead are called out of Hell at judgement day.”
        AND, this orthodox TWADDLE continues on still to this day…

        • Terry

          Ross, you are in serious scriptural doctrinal error. I would seriously recommend you study very prayerfully and carefully something like “Hell under Fire: Modern Scholarship Reinvents Eternal Punishment” by Editors: Christopher W. Morgan and Robert A. Peterson.

  • http://www.universalatonement.com ross marshall

    No I’m not.
    The Grave, ”the unseen realm” the world beyond physical life, does have compartments, and one of them is hades, or ”hell”, where unsaved people are housed, while believers go to be ”immediately with Christ”, in waiting for the resurrection and judgement day.
    But, HELL is NOT everlasting in the sense that it eternally KEEPS its occupants imprisoned, without release. IF YOU CANNOT SEE THE FOLLOWING TRUTH, then you are more blind than a Bat.
    Why? Rev.20:13, IN BIG FAT BOLD LETTERS says,…
    ”And the sea gave up the dead which were in it;
    and death and ………..********hell delivered up the dead *******
    which were in them:
    and they were judged every man according to their works.

    • Mark

      What about that fearful swim in the lake of fire? How does that dovetail with the Universalist position?

      Shalom

      • http://www.universalatonement.com ross marshall

        OK, YOU ASKED FOR IT…

        3.) LAKE OF FIRE & ITS PURPOSE

        THE FALLACY OF AN EVERLASTING HELL
        AND AN ETERNAL LAKE OF FIRE

        The teaching of the everlasting captivation of damnable souls by the insatiable apatite of Hell is a Roman farce precipitated further by the ignorance of Protestantism.

        Is God willing to put an end to the torments of Hell, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then how can Hell possibly last for all eternity? — Randy Olds, 1967

        The answer to this above question resides in the thirteenth verse of the twentieth chapter of the Book of Revelation (The Unveiling of Jesus Christ), where it reads,
        “””And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and Hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.”” — (Rev. 20:13. AV, KJV)

        GOD NEVER SAID, “ETERNAL HELL”!

        “I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.” — REV. 22: 18-19

        “You shall not add to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it”– DEUT. 4: 2

        [The rest of the comment was deleted by the blog owner. See comment below.]

        • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

          Ross,

          That was a lot of information, but way way too much for a comment on this blog. Your comment was nearly 11,000 words! I don’t mind posting alternate views in the comments on my blog, but if your comment is going to be over 300 words or so, just write a post on your own website, and then link to it from the comment section here. Thanks!

          If, by chance, you did not have your entire comment saved in your files, and want a copy of it to post on your website, I have saved a copy of the comment in my files and would be more than happy to email it to you. Just let me know!

          • Mark Duncan

            Thanks to Ross for your post on Universal Salvation. Obviously, it is not a mainstream doctrine but I will not lie or try to fool you. I have never given it even a whimsical thought previously dismissing all such notions out of hand which, quite frankly, isn’t very Christian so I am sorry.
            There are many “winds of doctrine” floating around these days but you have obviously given this theology some very serious thought and done a lot of research. If as most would say you are teaching false doctrines then at the very least you deserve as learned an answer for the doctrine of a truly eternal damnation just as learned as you gave in favor of Universal Salvation. I do not currently have one for you. I do not say it doesn’t exist only that I don’t have it. I challenge anyone in this forum with the knowledge and the skill that opposes the doctrine of Universal Salvation to make the case point by point with all due respect to Ross.
            One thought does come to mind for me. The gospel is good news but only to those who find themselves in a paradise for eternity with God and their fellow believers. Those who are utterly convinced beyond consoling that they are lost forever because of the unpardonable sin cannot even fathom the concept of good news. (continued in next post due to the new 300 word rule)(Sorry Jeremy but there is a way around every rule….LOL)

          • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

            Mark,

            Ha ha ha! The 300 word rule is not hard and fast. I don’t have it written anywhere, and I don’t mind longer comments. Many people often write longer comments.

            But, with all due respect to Ross, 11,000 words was way too long for a comment.

        • Mark Duncan

          (continuation of Mark’s post)Reading your post for just a short moment the sky seemed a little bluer and the sun a little brighter for if what you say and teach is true then there is truly hope for all without end. Then I had to remind myself Universal Salvation is a false doctrine. I also, shamefully, was resentful that those I am so comfortable feeling superior to according to your view of scripture will ultimately share the benefits of heaven. How shameful and sick a thought is that for a so called “christina”? The prodigal son’s older brother and I must have the same DNA.
          According to Jeremy your post was about 11,000 words but I was glued to my little I phone reading until I absolutely had to go to work and left about 2,000 of them on the table so hopefully I can retrieve the post.
          God bless you and all of the precious souls here in this forum. You who think you have committed the unpardonable sin please know that you are loved and cherished as brothers in Christ. You are truly precious in the sight of God and of your brothers. Thank you for sharing your pain and your suffering with us here in the forum. My heart goes out to you as one who himself does still from time-to-time deal with the “voices” and was once paralyzed by the fear of eternal damnation knowing for sure that I had committed this grievous sin you all have been speaking about.
          Thanks for the blog Jeremy and sorry but seems I just broke your new rule of 300 words. May I please have a variance?
          In His love to all,
          Mark

          • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com Ross

            Well, I do not think we have to worry about ”the Un-foregiveable SIN” that is being argued over here. WHAT we DO have to worry about is the HIDDEN heresy and another unpardonable SIN, as taught by orthodoxy – and not Universalists. It is…
            ”The unpardonable SIN of UNBELIEF.” i.e. If you are an unbeliever, God give you a twinkle of an eye life span, then CUTS you off forever, never to be forgiven? And never to allow you a chance to change heart. Seems another heresy of the Church is, for this to ”stick” eternally, God has to GIFT those unbelievers with the ”gift of eternal resistance” in defiance of ”irresistable grace”; make Christ DRAW ”SOME” men and not ”ALL” men unto Him; make ”SOME FLESH see the Salvation of God and not ”ALL FLESH”; make UNBELIEF nullify the Law of God, rather than Not. It is not we who teach heresy, and it is not we who hold the torch of the Last Days Great Deception Lie, – the BAD NEWS – but the orthodox majority. See my above web site for further readings, IF you choose to try to refute our position. I cannot say ALL I need to say here…

        • Katie

          Ross,

          you misunderstood or took out of context the passage. The dead you’re talking about are the dead whose names are recorded in the book of life (Rev 20:12). Rev 20:15 says that whose names were not found written in the book of life were thrown in the lake of fire. (second death Rev 20:14, the final one) You seem to have read right around the truth.

  • JT

    So… if one were to commit the unforgivable sin early in his or her life, and then later on come to believe in Jesus Christ, would he/she still be able to go to heaven? I know of many people who have probably done this, but if they were to go to hell…how could I be happy in heaven?

    I just don’t understand….God says that all sins are forgivable, but then he says that there is an unforgivable sin. I’ve believed in God my whole life, but things seem to be controdicting themselves now. I could never bring myself to turn from God, but I feel as if I am drifting.

    And I do have OCD (most likely religious OCD), and I to tend to hear voices that seemingly come from my own head. I never agree with these voices. If they are coming from my head, does that mean they are my thoughts? If one of them were to speak blasphemy about the Holy Spirit, would I be damned to hell?

    Please reply. ~JT

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      JT,

      Well, in my view, a person who truly committed the unpardonable sin is someone who never believes in Jesus for eternal life. So I do not have a definition of the unpardonable sin that would allow your opening statement to be true. No one who believes in Jesus for eternal life will end up in hell. If you have believed in Jesus for eternal life, you will are not headed for hell. There is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

  • Bex

    Hello Jeremy,

    I totally disagree. Matt. 12 Verse 32 says, “And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of Man, ([Son of Man is the name Jesus used for himself]) it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.”

    I just repeated this for easy reference. There are people in this world who claim they have received Christ. They read the bible, they spread “their version” of good news. But they do not believe or support any of the people who make claims that they have received gifts from the Holy Ghost. How many churches do you know that do not put any emphasis or even try to persuade people to live up to the standards set by Apostle Paul in 1st Corinthians chp. 12? I know plenty. They are blaspheming against the Holy Ghost. You ask them if they received the Holy Ghost and they say yes when I received Jesus. He has already been a part of us. However, I received the Holy Ghost before receiving Christ. It does not matter when you receive him but its not usually at the same time!

    There are many people out there, preachers even, who are not guided by the Holy Ghost. I wish to stress today, that if thou does not acknowledge the Holy Ghost and does not receive him nor does he desire earnestly spiritual gifts and speaks evil against the gifts of the Holy Ghost is not saved.

    Point 1: There are many people who do not know about his 2nd coming, but more people who do not know to acknowledge the Holy Ghost. There must be a great awareness made of this scripture, I feel the Holy Spirit has lead me here to say this.

    Point 2: Today all people who are Christians are not saved. Some are, some are not. They might be doing “God’s work” but not doing His will. Matthew 7: 21-23 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’”

    Point 3: Doing the will of God and the “works” are two different things. I plan on making my own ministry one day. Rick Santorum is even claimed to be a faithful man. He will be justified by his faith in God, not by his works. Therefore we can not expect to carry out God’s will apart from the guidance of the Holy Ghost, whom was released to us after Jesus’s cruxification. We must first obtain a blessing of the Holy Ghost then become ambassadors for God. Be baptized by the Holy Ghost from a preacher so that you can be faithful in your walk. So that you may be guided correctly to God’s service, not by your carnal mind but by the guidance of the Holy One. Desire spiritual gifts.

    Point 4: The unpardonable sin remains unpardonable. We must remember that Jesus did not write the bible. However, his words are written in read in my bible. “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.” 2 Timothy 3:16. We do not know if this is truly the correct interpretation of what Jesus was trying to say. But we do not that it was not. My advice is this: Do not let yourself be in trouble by working against the Holy Spirit.

    Thanks.

    Rebeca S. Please feel free to write back any time!

    • Terry

      Bex,

      You are in error scripturally. Salvation is by “grace” alone, through “faith” alone. It is not received by faith plus future works of obedience as you suggest. You are proclaiming a “different gospel” (Galatians 1:6-8).

    • Alec

      Even so after I had done this God woke me in a few days later from a dream with the message, “repent, repent, repent, fallen one.” To this day we truly don’t understand what Christ’s sacrifice on the cross truly meant. The holy spirit still lives in me, I’ve seen it try to do good through me. You are not damned. Your relationship with God might be saved but he said do blaspehme the holy spirit that you were ENDANGERED of losing salvation. Not undoubtedly so. I believe it is a sin you have to be committed to. The devil will most likely will push you that way, so stay on guard, guard your thoughts, rebuke the bad ones, never surrender. This is a battle I might have to fight till I die. But just try to remember and FOCUS on all the good that God has done, and the spirit itself, when has it ever done you wicked? I cannot think of a time. I am putting up a wall of blessings just to remember that fact.

      God bless you, all those who have fallen, rise once against in Christ’s gift.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Bex,

      I think you are confusing many various sins against the HOly Spirit. There is a huge difference between quenching the Holy Spirit, resisting the Holy Spirit, and blaspheming the Holy Spirit. All of the examples you cited would fall into one of those first two categories, but not into blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

  • http://www.universalatonement.com ross marshall

    ………….Oh God?… after 35 years of classical university 332 credits and a PH’deee He Hehe ha ha ha… I find so many people ignorant of the most simple book to read… the bible. Does ANYONE even believe in a totally LOVING GOD anymore???
    For now, until I can figure out how to post the 11 million word chapter i wrote to you all.. read my web site, and these others.
    http://www.UniversalAtonement.com
    http://www.GodSavesAll.org
    http://www.tentmaker.org

  • JT

    Thank you very much Jeremy!

  • Jim Puntney

    With all that has been said I do believe that Jeremy has rather succinctly answered this rather perplexing question. With that being said it seems to come down to this.

    Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. Do not be wise in your own eyes; Fear the Lord and depart from evil. It will be health to your flesh, And strength to your bones.
    Proverbs 3:5~7 NKJV

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Thanks, Jim. That is another good verse. We must trust in God’s guidance and protection.

  • carl

    “Just wanted to share that i now know i am not Guilty of this sin. God revealed himself to me and told me i am not guilty and that i did not blaspheme the holy spirit. Many christians i have told this to have told me the holy spirit revealed the samething to them.

    The Voices are Demonic! and i am under Demonic attack. they not only have uttered blasphemies against jesus christ. and the holy spirit. but have also spoken things to me. demanding my soul. wanting me to give them my soul and worship them or they will continue to utter blasphemies.

    for almost 7 months i have been blaming myself and have been fearful of “Unpardonable sin” Thinking i have done this. for months the lord has been speaking to me through many people. telling me it is NOT ME! BUT THE VOICES. who are doing the blasphemies.

    • Anonymous

      I agree w/ you and are happy that you got that revelation! Plus I wanted to add to everyone else the verse in Mat 12 that says: 30 “He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.” Let our hearts tell us whether we are for or against God. The Pharisees were obv against him so tried with all their might to stop his teachings. That’s where this blasphemy is first mentioned. It also says a couple verses down: 33 “Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit.” What is our fruit? Obviously we know if we are bringing about bad fruit, or deeds. That’s another indicator of whether we are for or against God. Therefore, it is impossible to commit the “unpardonable sin” if we are trying to live for God and are trying to live according to God’s Word. Therefore let God bless each and every person going through this horrible thing, and may he provide wisdom and strenght for everyone out there (including myself)!! God bless

  • http://hotmail randy

    ok everyday this comes to my thinking it swears at god and jesus and the holy ghost the badest names you could think of like unclean they cast out you know what i mean and they are the d word you no that bad guy with the d starts with his name ok when that happens i say no out loud i swear at the devil and isay i love god and jesus and the holy ghost this come in my thouts i dont speack it with my mouth when this happen i dident ask to forgive because i feel so bad then for like a year i was in the middle i wasent sure if there was god are not i stilled pray when i ate my food and isent blasphemy when you speack with your mouth i watch this vidoe about the new world order it said how do we know if we are praying to the wrong name it said they have made the bible to control are minds so isaid in a chat i said how do we know if we are praying to the d instead of g you know i dident mean it that way i ment what happens if we got the name wrong because they say godbless trust in god and they beleave in the devil so did i do blasphemy i need to know

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Randy,

      I am a little unclear on what is happening to you, but the answer to your question is quite clear: No, you have not committed the unpardonable sin. God still loves you and always has. His grace through Jesus Christ covers over every sin you have ever committed, and every sin you will commit.

      If you believe in Jesus for everlasting life, you are eternally secure in God’s hands.

  • http://HalleluiahAnyhow.com Grateful Al

    I have found this to be one of the most interesting posts I have ever come across. Several points I’d like to make were Waaay to long to post here, esp. since it’s my first one, per the host’s request. *smile*

    I’d appreciate anyone, especially Mr. Ross with his “literal translations,” and our presumed ignorance of such simple works as the Bible, interested in seeing what a couple of classic commentators, Adam Clarke’s *Commentary on the Bible*, published 1810 – 1826, and Albert Barnes’, *Notes on the Bible*, published 1847 – 1885, both in the public domain, offered regarding these passages. I posted it on my nearly dead, now resurrected, blog:

    http://www.halleluiahanyhow.com/response-the-unpardonable-sin

    I’d be interested in following any comments that are posted here, so I’ll be getting notifications.

    Oh, and always remember, those that are unbelievers or fence-sitters pose no threat to the Kingdom of God. I believe that is why James offered this encouragement to us: My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
    James 1:2 (KJV)

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Grateful Al,

      Those are very interesting quotes! I had not read them before, and will need to seriously consider them. I really like the points they make and the way they lay out their case.

      I tried to leave a comment to this effect on your blog, but for some reason, commenting seemed to be turned off? Anyway, thank you for this information from master Bible scholars of the past.

      • http://halleluiahanyhow.com Grateful Al

        Thanks for the heads-up regarding the comments not working. I removed the Disqus plug in and all seems okay again.

  • Brit

    So I am a bit confused. I have always been told that if you committee suicide that you will be sent to hell since you don’t have that chance to repent. Which I have a hard time with this because I think that if you believed in Jesus and the Holy spirit that he would not banish you to hell but welcome you with open arms to come and be with him forever. Sometimes people just can’t handle life or live with the things they have done and want to be with Jesus what are your thoughts?

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Brit,

      Suicide is definitely not the unpardonable sin. You are right about why people say it is unpardonable, but this idea just shows that they do not grasp the complete forgiveness of God given to all through Jesus on the cross for all sins, past, present, and future.

      I will discuss this in more detail in my forthcoming ebook.

  • Buddy

    It seems as though people spend to much time concentrating on this! I have examined my life and have never come close to committing that sin!! Also, concerning some of the comments posted on here… There are many called, but few are chosen! 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels:46And these shall go away into eternal punishment: but the righteous into eternal life.not to mention…24Strive to enter in by the narrow door: for many, I say unto you, shall seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 13And the sea gave up the dead that were in it; and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death, even the lake of fire. 15And if any was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire. Last but not least…21Was not Abraham our father justified by works, in that he offered up Isaac his son upon the altar? 22Thou seest that faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect; 23and the scripture was fulfilled which saith, And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned unto him for righteousness; and he was called the friend of God. 24Ye see that by works a man is justified, and not only by faith.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Buddy,
      Well, even if you haven’t, many have and do struggle with this sin. Do not look down on them for struggling with something you may not struggle with. We each have our own struggles and areas of weakness.

      What is yours?

      • Buddy

        I don’t look down on them… That is not the intent of the message. The intent of the message is to remind the children of god that god looks at the heart of each individual! Gods word also states that we are not to stress and worry about such things as these, especially when a topic like this begins to effect their relationship with the lord! For someone to commit an unforgivable sin they would have to have almost no love for the father!! If a person has committed a sin of that magnitude he or she will know it without a doubt and probably wouldn’t care anyways!!! I speak on behalf of my relationship with god! Jesus is the example set before everyone who desires life and to have a relationship with god. He was born in the flesh by a woman under the law(word became flesh)! He was circumcised, baptized and received the holy spirit! He was not born with the fathers spirit in him! Jesus was born through the seed of his father outside of the bondage of sin! Jesus suffered in the flesh… Had weakness in the flesh… But had the same choice we have today!!! Just as we are instructed to do… Jesus put no confidence in the flesh, but instead chose to abide in the same spirit the father has given to all his children… Including us!! Jesus was tempted to the max and simply remained in the spirit and quoted scripture when faced with temptation! We are to do the same on a daily basis! He committed no sin and through prayer and fasting and of course obedience he became perfect! People say well he is god… His word says he chose to take the form of a bond servant… According to the word he was given the same exact everything that the child of god has today plus…plus we have Jesus going to the father on our behalf too!!! The only weakness I have is the same weakness Christ had… His flesh!! So I choose to follow the same commandment he followed! 16But I say, walk by the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.18But if ye are led by the Spirit, ye are not under the law.25If we live by the Spirit, by the Spirit let us also walk.4that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 9But ye are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you. But if any man hath not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.People need to quit putting faith in false teachers and commentaries from people they don’t know and start trusting in the holy spirit to teach them what they need to know!!!!! For example; 27As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him. Hey man I got to go this thing is about to die… Sorry if this was a little bit long!!!

      • Carl

        thanks for Accepting my friend request on facebook jeremy

  • Buddy

    Hey I have a question for Jeremy on behalf of BRIT. If Jesus would not have followed his fathers commands and decided that he just did not appreciate the life god gave him!! So instead he decides that he was going to shoot himself…or hang himself…or… Cut his own head off!! According to Satan and all his angels in heaven that ( REBELLED) against god what do you think The outcome would be for Jesus?? Also, would other son’s and daughter’s of god be treated the same as He…???? (PS. WOULD A BORN AGAIN CHILD OF GOD WHO LOVES GOD AND HIS NEIGHBOR AS HIMSELF EVEN WANT TO TAKE HIS OWN LIFE… REMEMBER BORN AGAIN AND CHILD OF GOD… REPENTANCE!!!!!!!) Hey how about one for the road…19“And I will give them one heart, and put a new spirit within them. And I will take the heart of stone out of their flesh and give them a heart of flesh, 20that they may walk in My statutes and keep My ordinances and do them. Then they will be My people, and I shall be their God. Now does that sound like the kind of person that will commit SUICIDE?! No… Oops I answered the question for you!!!!!!!!! THAT’S NEW COVENANT…

  • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com Ross

    Hey.
    I don’t know about all of you, but people who POST in here squeeling about committing the Unforgiveable SIN is getting to be real enable-ing…. I SUGGEST we all tell these LAZY folk Brothers to start GOOGLE Searching up answers for themselves… LEARN to LOOK things up, read commentaries, take notes and then decide for themselves. IF they end up believing they have committed IT, then SO BE IT!!! Then, if that’s what they believe, then let them ALSO believe that JUST WHAT THEY BELIEVE and let them go to hell believing in Jesus. Ain’t that rediculous!!!! LOL. But I don’t know about you all, but I’m TIRED of doing THEIR HOME WORK FOR THEM. I all ready posted a huge article that ANSWERED THIS QUESTION. IF they cannot see the truth their, then they CANNOT see it anywhere. It’s called ”BLINDNESS”. – sorry for the spelling….R

    • Ralph

      Hey Self Righteous Ross. your own comment just shows you don’t even care about your fellow brothers struggling with this. the same with buddys comment. both you and him seem so Pharisee ISH

    • Anonomous

      It’s easy to say so, but if you’re not going through it yourself, you will never ever know how it feels. It may be a trial for some that have to go through this firey furnace in their lives. If I were you, I would just thank God that you’re not going through this instead of judging the ones that are and maybe even praying for them. Saying “they are blind” or don’t have faith is very weak commentary for a Christian to his dear brothers and sisters.

  • Carl

    Well i Now Know i have not “Committed” this sin. for 8 months i have been tortured with countless demonic voices, Images, that were not of Me. BUT! i Now know that it was Satan who was doing it. especially when i stopped reading the bible. and wanted to give up on this. the voices stopped. the minute i came back the voices came back. this time they were saying stuff like they wanted my body for them to live in, and that jesus never died for me. jesus has demons harassing me. ect.

    God himself has been speaking to me and leading me to scriptures that i have never really read before. one! i need to put on the full Armor of God. he has been speaking to me about this for a while. aswell as 2timothy1:7 where that verse says god has not given me a spirit of fear. but of power love and a sound mind

    Also Many have told me if i did “commit” this sin i would not even be concerned. the voices go as far as to say the holy sirit has demons harassing me. i know its a lie! and i know satan is using this to keep me in Bondage of fear.

    one of the things i need to get over is fearing satan and his voice. he even gave me a ultimatum once that if i did not renounce my faith. he would utter blasphemies and drive me crazy. i at one time thought about “suicide” but i know that is not the answer.

    i am glad that God has put Biblical counselors in my life. who has been counseling me about these things and other things. mainly fear.

    i know 500% certain that i did not and never did blaspheme the holy spirit. i know for months i have but after God himself spoke to me and even came in a dream and spoke to me and led me to many scriptures. and assured me i was still his. i am not free.

    • Anonomous

      do you mean you are “now” free; or “not free” was it a typo?

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Carl,

      This is great news! Thank you for sharing it! I pray for all the people who come visit this site as many of them are struggling with fear about this sin and other related issues.

      I am thrilled to hear that you have been delivered from this fear.

      Praise God!

  • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com Ross

    NO!!!!!!! that’s Not true… I just KNOW that if and WHEN you finally tell someone to go LOOK it all up, THEN come back and ask questions AFTER they have done some homework, they will better understand and appreciate things we do have to say. NOW, if they go off and do nothing, what does this tell us? The times I’ve learned the most is when I did a little studying FIRST!!!!! before I ground on my teachers. How dare you call me a JEW! Boy arn’t we quick to judge!

    • Ralph

      @Ross. like you are Quick to Condemn and look down on your brothers instead of Encouraging them.

      BTW. i never called you a JEW! i said Pharisee. Now Judging by your comment. and how offended you got. then it must be true

      if the shoe fits wear it!

      • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com Ross

        1.) if one TRIES to find answer… I help.
        2.) if they do not at least study the problem… doing their ”work” for them does not help. We EACH are to study to show ourselves approved… etc..”. If they are not doing this, well…. you answer that question.
        3.) Giving people answers does no good if they are not doing the above.
        A wise man seeks much council.. but a wise man has to KNOW what questions to ask, and have done a little reading first…..
        if they can’t read, then this is another story…
        Im not opposed to helping people – spent my whole life doing it, while most aquired properties and have more then I will ever have… I ended up in a trailer!!! with head knowledge, while they ended up with 200K houses and SUV’s…..I have 332 credit units and a paupers income. So, first, don’t call me a Jew; 2.) don’t say I don’t sympathise with the poor in spirit; 3.) With 45 years of being a PING-PONG ball between church denominationalism, sectarianism, separatism heresies, don’t tell me that I DO NOT KNOW what it is like to ask questions and get 1000+ different answers from perverted bible translation folk? i.e. one will answer from the NIV, another from KJV, another from Fenton’s; Strong’s; NAS; ASV; etc…………………………each with a different ”twist”…..

        • Ralph

          So how are the bible translations Perverted?

          • http://halleluiahanyhow.com Grateful Al

            Ralph, that is a very legitimate question, brother! A couple of years ago I ‘accidentally’ came across this website:
            http://www.avpublications.com/avnew/home.html

            I downloaded some of the materials (free) and later purchased some of the books. Amazing stuff. I can honestly tell you that *In Awe of Thy Word* took me to a whole new level in my appreciation of His Word and my love for Him. Before anyone starts jumping up and down and screaming, I know Ms Riplinger has been challenged by many. I just know that her research is quite impressive. And the results are quite shocking.

            So, the question is, do we believe in a God that is mighty enough, and big enough, to preserve his precious Word(s), His love letter to us, the Manufacturers Handbook? There is a well-documented case for everything up to and including the King James Version.

            After that? Well, seek for yourself, please.

  • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com Ross

    ”i never called you a JEW! i said Pharisee”…
    What’s the difference?
    Are you just looking for a FIGHT today? you seem to be a bit provocative?
    hey read my next Ethics question and have fun…
    (Stop being a barker.)

    • Anonomous

      wow such mature christians…

    • Ralph

      Grow up. i called it the way i see it. your own statement you made about the others tells me you don’t care about your fellow christian brothers who believe they did blasphemed the holy spirit.

      Last i read in scripture it says share and carry each others burdens. Not Be Condemning.

      Pharisee

  • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

    ….sigh….

    • http://halleluiahanyhow.com Grateful Al

      *chuckle*

  • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com Ross

    SITUATIONAL ETHICS QUESTION:
    You and a close friend are Astronauts in a future time. You land on an Alien planet. You both are captured. Both wake up from a deep sleep and
    find yourselves in a small room. You are holding a gun with only ONE SHOT. You are looking at your friend trapped in a barred chamber next to you. He is slowing being compressed to death with NO WAY to escape and NO way to survive. His death obviously will be a very horrible and painful one as the chamber squeezes the life out of him. Now you are watching this take place and have to make a choice. [Now remember, you both are real devout Christians!]
    1.) Shoot him.
    2.) Do nothing.
    3.) Shoot yourself.
    Questions to ask before you make a choice.
    a. What’s the aliens intentions?
    b. Are the aliens nice or not?
    c. Is this a ”test” or ”a death sentence?
    d. is the machine programmed to continue or to stop at some point?

    Whether you wait or not, there is no way to tell if the machine will continue or not. If you shoot him can you justify it ‘as mercy killing” as opposed to the 10 Commandments? ”Thy shalt not kill (murder?).” What of those believers in the lion’s den? Do nothing and bare the horrible scene? Then, wait your turn to see what happens to you. Powerful amount of indifference on your part!
    Shot yourself? Suicide is just as questionable as against God’s Will as mercy killing is?
    PICK AN ANSWER and try to explain WHY you would do it and what repercussions this has on / with Scripture teachings.

  • Buddy

    Hey Ralph,
    I would like you to show me according to the comment I posted (copy&paste) where I committed a sin! If I committed a sin please… Show me!! Your responsibility as commanded by god is this; 1Brethren, even if anyone is caught in any trespass, you who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; each one looking to yourself, so that you too will not be tempted. Now, nowhere in the scripture does it state that you are to call your, “fellow brothers in Christ” a “Pharisee”!!! Also, I don’t completely understand how it is that you think I am a Pharisee from the comment posted!! Let’s compare… I follow after Jesus’ example! The Pharisees despised Jesus! I Give my life to Jesus! The Pharisees sought to take his life! I love Jesus! The Pharisees hated Jesus! My favorite… I keep Jesus with me… They never wanted anything to do with him! Please, for your sake do not wrong me, by insulting me with names!!! 31It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Just for the record Ralph, you and I are still ok!!!!! Let’s get back to teaching the word shall we?! I have two questions for the, “commenters”! Where in the bible does it state that a person, “begotten of god” commits/makes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???? Can a person transgress and abide not in the doctrine of Christ and still have god in their heart????

  • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com Ross

    I care about the Brothers.. see above HUGE commentary on the Unpardon. Sin…

    • Ralph

      Quoting what you said earlier! and yes you were looking down on your brothers.

      It seems as though people spend to much time concentrating on this! I have examined my life and have never come close to committing that sin!! Also, concerning some of the comments posted on here… There are many called, but few are chosen! 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels:46And these shall go away into eternal punishment: but the righteous into eternal life.not to mention…24Strive to enter in by the narrow door: for many, I say unto you, shall seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 13And the sea gave up the dead that were in it; and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death, even the lake of fire. 15And if any was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire. Last but not least…21Was not Abraham our father justified by works, in that he offered up Isaac his son upon the altar? 22Thou seest that faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect; 23and the scripture was fulfilled which saith, And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned unto him for righteousness; and he was called the friend of God. 24Ye see that by works a man is justified, and not only by faith.

      Reply

  • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com Ross

    Whether purposely or by mistake = perversions in translations.= (But we CAN CORRECT THEM! If we allow ourselves to stand corrected as well.)
    The Use of “Easter” in Acts 12.4
    http://www.trinitarianbiblesociety.org/site/articles/easter.html
    Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live
    http://voices.yahoo.com/mistranslated-bible-quotes-thou-shalt-9165647.html
    Tons of other translation errors…
    http://www.angelfire.com/hi2/graphic1designer/errors.html
    http://bible.org/article/why-i-do-not-think-king-james-bible-best-translation-available-today
    ONE REAL GOOD SITE:
    http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/what-are-the-errors-in-king-james-version-bible.html

  • http://halleluiahanyhow.com Grateful Al

    @Ross: How very tolerant you are. I again suggest this is one of the most profound comment threads I’ve seen in quite some time. And this section of scripture is something that has terrorfying consequeces and can be easily misunderstood.

    I heard once that no one is capable of committing this sin of blasphamy against the Holy Spirit because we will never be in position to denouce all of the answers (glory) that await us on the other side of the ‘dark glass’ we are now seeing through. In other words, we are only capable of spewing nonsense out of ignorance in this state of being.
    For instance, Satan stood against God and 1/3 of the idiot angels fell in league with him. Even now he stands as our accusor before God and prowls the world looking for those to devour by way of his mode of operation- via lies, deceiption and deceit. Satan and his minions (fallen angels) SAW and expeienced ALL of God’s (The Trinity’s) Glory and Majesty and Power. He still had the gall to suggest to God he could do things better, esp when it came to the highest order of His creation – us.
    Where in the world would you find room for forgiveness for one such as that – that level of rebellion?!
    Who of us would be so fully possessed with all of the Gifts and Presence of the Holy Spirit to be able to save countless souls, heal the sick, perform countless miracles, even raise the dead? How insane would it be to then deny God (His Spirit) all the credit? Where in that situation would you see forgiveness from God being ‘just’?

    So, in a nutshell, I believe this addresses, as briefly as possible here, the ‘short-comings’ of “Universal Salvation” as I understand it.

    In that belief system, it seems we are attempting to project on God OUR sense of fairness, compassion. love, and understanding. “I certainly wouldn’t condemn ANYONE to eternal pain or suffering.”

    Well, where in all of that is the element of being Just or justice being done.

    Deu 32:4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.

    • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com Ross

      If you went to court one day for NOT believing in a STOP SIGN and ran it, and the judge says guilty! Then you are thrown into JAIL for the rest of your life (eternity), and it just so happens according to churchianity, that this life is eternal! Would you consider GOD just and fair and merciful? PLUS, where does it really say PLAINLY that GOD stops and CUTS off a man’s ability to SEE and believe? At death? NO. WHY doesn’t GOD leave ALL lost souls IN HELL to ROT for ever, rather than DRAW them ALL OUT to judge them for good and bad works? pffffffffff !! WE ALL believe in the Immortality of the SOUL, and so, does GOD NOT have as much time as He can manufacture to wait till the LAST SOUL repents? Of course! This is mercy and this is justice.

  • Ashley

    Jeremy and others
    What does god say i have to do If I want to go to heaven?

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Believe in Jesus for eternal life.

      That’s it.

      John 3:16, 5:24; 6:47. Acts 16:30-31; Rom 4:4-5; Eph 2:8-9, etc.

  • Ashley

    Ok people keep telling me that I need to repent or I will perish. They are also saying that I cannot continue living in sin. Are they right? Some people also say that I have to bear fruit. Do I have to bear fruit… I don’t understand

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      No to everything.

      Repentance is for the purpose of maintaining relational fellowship with God and other people. Just like if a family member sins against you. Does their sin cause the destruction of the family tie between you? Of course not. You are still “family.” But their sin may make you not want to go to their house for holidays. But once they repent, and ask your forgiveness, then the fellowship between you is mended, and you can enjoy spending time with them again.

      The same with good works and fruit. Our eternal life is not dependent upon these things. But God wants us to live in righteousness and obedience rather than sin, because, frankly, it is the better, happier, and more free way to live. Who wants to be enslaved to drugs or alcohol? Who wants to live their life in prison? Who wants to get divorced and remarried multiple times? Nobody. But that is where sin leads, and if we follow God’s advice, our lives will be more full of joy and peace. But again, sinning or not sinning has absolutely nothing to do with gaining or keeping eternal life and membership in God’s family. Once you are born into God’s family by believing in Jesus for eternal life, you cannot be unborn from God’s family any more than you can go back and be unborn from your earthly family.

      • Ashley

        Jeremy I don’t believe you are saying correctly what the bible says about repenting, fruiti and sin. Can you show me the scripture that supports what you are saying? Can you explain what this means?<> I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same beareth much fruit: for apart from me ye can do nothing., <> Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. <> If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned. Thank you

        • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

          Ashley,

          Yes, there are dozens of passages in the Bible that people use (incorrectly, IMO) to say that Christians need good works to gain, keep, maintain, or prove their eternal life.

          I have good exegetical reasons to hold different viewpoints about all of these Scriptures.

          What it really comes down to is this: Is eternal life by faith alone, or by some sort of combination of faith plus works?

          If it is by faith alone, then it must be by faith alone from first to last. If it is by faith plus works, then we are really no different than any other world religion and the grace of God is pretty much meaningless.

          • Ashley

            Thank you Jeremy but you still didn’t answer the question that I had asked. I’m really not trying to be rude I just believe that if someone is going to teach people about god they should explain through his scripture! I had asked before for some scripture that backs up what you are teaching. will you please explain what the bible is talking about… I’m in John 15 verses 2,5,6 and Jesus says that he is the vine and we are the branches and every branch(ASHLEY) that is in HIM bears a lot of fruit(GOOD DEEDS)!! He also says that if Ashley(THE BRANCH) does not bear a lot of fruit(GOOD DEEDS/WORKS) then I will be taken out of him!! Finally, Jesus says that if I don’t abide(STAY) in HIM then he will throw me away and I will be burned with all the other branches in the fire! I know that only a Christian can abide in him…

            By the way, your question you asked me: “What it really comes down to is this: Is eternal life by faith alone, or by some sort of combination of faith plus works? “To answer that I went to god;
            [JAMES 2:14 What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has (faith) but he has no (works)? Can that faith (save) him?]

            [JAMES 2:18 But someone may well say, “You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.”]

            [JAMES 2:20 But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that FAITH WITHOUT WORKS is DEAD!]

            [JAMES 2:21 Was not (ABRAHAM) our father (JUSTIFIED) by (WORKS)when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar?]

            [JAMES 2:22 You see that (FAITH) was working with his (WORKS), and as a result of the (WORKS), (FAITH) was made perfect;]

            [JAMES 2:23 and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “AND ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS,” and he was called the friend of God.]

            [JAMES 2:24 You see that a (MAN) is (JUSTIFIED) by (WORKS)and not by (FAITH) alone.]

            [JAMES 2:25 In the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way?]

            [JAMES 2:26 For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also (FAITH) without (WORKS) is (DEAD).]

            So to answer your question… A man is justified by his works and not faith alone (JAMES 2:24)

          • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

            Ashley,

            Yes, I know I didn’t answer your question about John 15.

            Here is why. I have had thousands of these conversations over the years, and without fail, every single one of them goes like this:

            Questioner: I hear you saying that eternal life is by faith alone, but what about Passage X?
            Me: Yes, I have studied that passage too. Here is what passage X means.
            Questioner: That can’t be right, because what about Passage Y?
            Me: Yes, I have studied that passage too. Here is what passage Y means.
            Questioner: That can’t be right, because what about Passage Z?
            Me: Yes, I have studied that passage too. Here is what passage Z means.

            And on and on and on it goes. I did not answer your question about John 15 because I knew you would probably go to James 2 next, or if not that one, Hebrews 6, or Hebrews 10, or Matthew 7, etc, etc.

            Note that these are all very good questions and that all of these Scriptures must be discussed. I believe that all theology should be based and founded on Scripture. But an endless debate about various Scripture passages gets us nowhere.

            So in recent years, I have decided to start taking the opposite approach, and try to nail down theology first. I try to get people to see that there are two ways of reading Scripture regarding eternal life: one views eternal life based on works, and the other views eternal life based on faith alone in Jesus Christ alone.

            Do you see how the reading you are familiar with regarding John 15 and James 2 leads you to believe that works are required to gain, keep, maintain, or prove your eternal life? Please note that there are other explanations of these passages than the ones you have been taught.

            To begin to understand all these troubling passages in new ways, you need to first be open to the idea that Jesus was correct when He says in John 3:16; 5:24; 6:47, etc, that eternal life is freely given to those who believe in Him for it.

            Anyway…. if you really want to see a rough sketch of what I believe regarding the two passages you brought up, here are some old sermon texts I gave from eight years ago:

            http://www.tillhecomes.org/Text%20Sermons/John/John%2015%201-8.htm

            http://www.tillhecomes.org/Text%20Sermons/Misc/James%202%2014-26.htm

          • Charles

            How about James 2:17 ?

            Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself.

    • Charles

      Ashley repentance is simply a change of mind and attitude towards the sin that you once loved. Dont get to cought up in the word repentance or it will simply lead you to despair as you will never seem to be able to repent enough which God never expected a perfect repentance in the first place.

      Turn to God from dead works ashley, that is repentance and is all that is needed. Your bearing of fruit will come only after salvation and it will come naturally is it isnt something that you work to make happen, it just happens naturally.

      Now with all of this said I will worn you that “TODAY” if you hear his voice harden not your heart, dont harden your heart like I did ashley.

      • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com Ross

        I couldn’t have said it better Charles!!!! cool dude.

  • Charles

    Since 2008 I have been terrified that I had waited too long to become saved. Im 39yrs old and grew up in church so I am certainly not ignorant of the Gospel, I remember many MANY times during the alter calls at church when I was younger I would feel a pull or tug to step out and go forward to become saved but something always held me pinned back to my pew trembling and too afraid to move. To make a long story short I woke up one day and realized the concern was gone and it had been at least a decade or more since I last felt God tug at my heart during the invitation. I then cried out to him but it seemed that my cries were too late, I instead heard laughter and what sounded like God telling me that he was now rejecting me for rejecting him.

    Confused I searched scripture and found everything to condemn me especially the Hebrews 6:4-6 and Hebrews 10:26-31 and Hebrews 12:15 “the esau passage”.

    People say if you are concerned then you didnt go to far but I dont think I can agree with that anymore because we see from scripture that you can be worried but it will be too late then. Just look in Proverbs 1:26-31 and see for yourself.

    The last 4yrs things have been so black for me and the depression is so great that it has destroyed my life and my ability to function as a husband and a father. I feel like every day that I live is pointless because im going to hell when I die anyway.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Charles,

      It is NEVER too late. A person could wait all the way up until one second before they die, and God wills till accept him. Of course, one would be very unwise to try to wait this long, since we never know when death will come….

      People today greatly misunderstand and misapply the Hebrews warning passages. Do not let them scare you too much. They were written for Jewish Christians who were thinking of going back to the sacrificial system as way of taking care of their sin. The author of Hebrews is incredulously asking, “Why would you think of doing such a thing? There is nothing back there that has not already been done for you in Jesus Christ!”

      I do understand the depression as a husband and father. I struggled with this myself for multiple years.

      But know this… if you have believed in Jesus for eternal life, you will by no means go to hell when you die. God Himself promises it (see John 3:16; 5:24; 6:47; Acts 16:30-31; Rom 4:4-5; Eph 2:8-9, etc).

      • Charles

        See, I dont believe man has until his death bed to be saved because God knows the heart and if a man has spurned Gods saving grace ALL his life and then only cries out to God in fear of Going to hell then I do not believe that man will be saved.

        We are told that “Today is the day of salvation and if we hear his voice to not harden our hearts”. If a man can spurn Gods offer of salvation all the way to his deathbed then we wouldnt have such warning passages in the scripture such as the PROVERBS passages that I mentioned.

        If a man is to be saved he will be saved only when the Holy Spirit calles and you said it yourself that a time will come when the commander will comand for the lights to be turned off for good.

  • Charles

    Your not guarenteed that the Holy Spirit will still be striving with you while on your deathbed, you may have very well blasphemed him by that point from refusing his offer of salvation so many times.

  • Charles

    I think thats the whole point of the unpardonable sin because no one knows when it will come except for God but you can be sure that if you continually spurn his saving grace in your life that time WILL come to you and after that point its simply too late.

    Proverbs 1:22-28. Perfect example of a person who God has repeatedly stretched out his hand too, when that persons fear comes only then do they cry out but it will be too late at that point. You are to turn when God is still calling, not just because you know your about to die or some other calamity that comes your way.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Charles,

      Yes, I think I am in basic agreement with you. Thank you for weighing in.

      But I do think that it is important to clarify that the person who has committed the unpardonable sin does not really want to spend eternity with God or have anything to do with God. Those who still have this longing and desire have not committed the unpardonable sin.

  • carl

    Wow i see Not one person responded to my comment i posted above about my deliverance.

  • max

    What is the sin that leads to death? thats something i always could not figure out?

    • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com Ross

      If we had the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil here and ate IT, then we would die.. but I THINK we do not have to worry about that… it was done for us!!! LOLOL Actually no laughing matter…. thank God for jesus reversing this…

    • Charles

      I believe its blasphemey myself, its a highly debated subject among many pastors.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Max,

      It is a sin such as the one committed by Ananias and Sapphira, where it leads to a person physically dying. It is not referring to a sin that causes a person to die spiritually.

      • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com Ross

        You’re ding good Jeremy. Keep it up. have fun. But, some of these folk are impossible to reform, just like ROME, they cannot reform, because they are set in their ways and cannot be corrected. Also depends on the translation, and interpretive mechanism. To quote Jesus and PULL some of his statements over into the Post Pentacostal age, may seems ok, but it partically Judaises us into law and good works. This is why I am a Paulinist.
        ”THE WORK IS DONE, and THE DISHES ARE WASHED, anything else IS JUST BREAD AND SQUASH” or should be SQUASHED!….

      • Charles

        Thats a good point Jeremy in regards to the “sin unto death” however im still not totally convinced that this sin isnt one that leads to spiritual death, “Blasphemy”.

        Another passage to support your view Jeremy is about the believer in scripture who is said to be turned over to satan for the destruction of the flesh so that his soul might be saved at the day of Christ Jesus.

      • max

        Jeremy do you have scripture to back this up or is this just you geussing?

        • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

          Guessing about what? I’m not sure I understand your question. Do a word study in the Greek and Hebrew on the word “death” and you will see that in the vast majority of cases, it refers to physical death. So the question is “Which kind of death is in view in 1 John 5:16?”

          If you look at the passage, physical death is clearly in view, as spiritual death makes no sense at all. For example, if “spiritual death” is in view, how would one make sense of 1 John 5:17? And when we see someone commit sin “not unto death” and we pray for them, how is it that God can give them spiritual life because of our prayer? Can I give people eternal life simply by praying for them, and they don’t have to believe in Jesus? Of course not. But I can pray for someone’s physical health and life.

  • Charles

    Ashley, I think I get it. Good works will naturally flow from the person who has genuine saving faith just like good fruit will naturally come forth from a good tree. Its not as though you must work for your salvation, rather its God who is working through YOU to bring forth fruit. I will leave you with this passage, read it and think about what its saying.

    Philippians 2:12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed–not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence–continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling.

    NOW DONT STOP HERE, READ THE NEXT VERSE!

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.

    • Ashley

      WOW, thank you for the scripture CHARLES… I completely agree! A person who has been born again WILL: Luke 3:8“Produce therefore fruits worthy for repentance and do not start to say within yourselves, ‘Abraham is our father’, for I say to you that God can raise up from these stones children to Abraham. Luke 3:9”The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.”

      We know the bible teaches that, “Every branch in JESUS that does not PRODUCE fruit, GOD takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, GOD prunes it so that it may bear more fruit!

      Thank you Charles and Jeremy for your help so far… Jeremy I like scripture more than commentary! Thank you non the less

      BY THE WAY, I WAS WANDERING IF ANYBODY COULD SHOW ME SOME SCRIPTURE DESCRIBING WHAT A
      CHRISTIAN DOES IN THEIR WALK WITH GOD!!

      • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

        Ashley,

        I could quote hundreds of verses. But anybody can quote the Bible… even the devil (Luke 4:1-13).

        The real truth is in what the Scriptures mean.

        This was the same problem Jesus had with the Pharisees. They had one understanding of Scripture, and He had another. Both could quote Scripture at each other until they were blue in the face, but that got them nowhere. Jesus had to show them that their works-based religion was false and contrary to God, and that eternal life was by grace alone through faith alone in Him.

        • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com Ross

          RIGHT ON! Jeremy! The OTHER gospel Paul WARNED about includes a ”work-ethics”, a ”maintanance-salvation”, ya got’ta do this or that, or loose it type LIE! St Paul NEVER spoke in terms of being a Mr. DO-GOOD. In fact he said, otherwise… we were rotten sinners, saved by a FREE GIFT.

      • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com Ross

        Oooo, sorry Ashley,
        but you are adding to scriptures in this passage…. This statement is only applicable to those of the days of Jesus. This was BEFORE the descent and incomming Holy Spirit SEALING the Believer. SEE EPHESIANS 1:13 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Ephesian 1:13 as well CANNOT be applied BACKWARDS to the people Jesus was talking to. They could believe BECAUSE THEY SAW HIM and believed, but were NOT SEALED in any Holy Spirit, as we are under the DISPENSATION of Eph. 1:13
        PEOPLE!!!!! BROTHERS SISTERS, IT IS DIFFERENT TODAY after the Holy Spirit was sent by Jesus at Pentcost!!!! STOP dragging prior time periods into this AGE!
        ONCE SAVED you are SEALED and secured, possessed and owned by Jesus and BOUGHT with a price from the KID-NAPPER – remember, JESUS PAID THE RANSOM!!!!! Once PAID, always paid.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Yikes!

      Charles, this is pure works-based religion!

      First, the “fruit” of Matthew 7 is NOT good works. Matthew 12 makes it clear that the “fruit” is words. So we cannot become fruit-inspectors in looking for our good works (or those of others) to determine who has eternal life.

      Second, the phrase “work out” does not mean “work for” or “work to get” or “work to maintain” or even “work to prove.” It is a special construction which means something closer to “exercise” or “fully utilize.” Paul is calling them to “make full use of” their salvation…. not get it, earn it, or prove they have it by good works.

      Third, the word “salvation” does not refer to eternal life. In the context of Philippians, “salvation” means deliverance from persecution and suffering. It is used this way in 1:19 and 1:28-29.

      So Paul is saying, “Fully utilize your deliverance from persecution with fear and trembling, because God is utilizing you to accomplish His good purposes.”

      When delivered from persecution, we shouldn’t just sit around, but recognize that God protected and delivered us for His purposes!

      • http://www.UniversalAtonement.com Ross

        The THIEF on the Cross is a PRIME example of someone who GOT SALVATION without ANY works at all… it is NO different with anyone else.
        there is ONLY ONE mechanism of salvation, and IF – and it was – salvation ewas applied to the THIEF for free, WITH NO GOOD WORKS, but by FAITH ALONE, then it is the same for us.
        ALL these people who teach otherwise are preaching the DEVIL’s Gospel. WOLVES in SHEEP’s clothing. Judaism masked as Christianity.

  • Ashley

    In the Scriptures there are two kinds of death: the physical and the spiritual. Sins that lead to physical death would be things like suicide, drug use, and drunk driving. If we assume that John is talking about sins that lead to physical death, we find ourselves having difficulty explaining the actions of some men in the Bible. For example, both Jesus and Stephen prayed to God to forgive those who were killing them because the people did not understand what they were doing (Luke 23:34; Acts 7:60). If John was talking about physical death, then Jesus and Stephen would have been praying for people who were committing sins leading to death. This does not ring true.
    However, in Romans 6:20-23 Paul tells us that the wages of sin is death. The death is contrasted to gift of God, which is eternal life. From this we conclude that Paul is talking about spiritual death. It seems that John too is speaking of spiritual death.Not every sin committed ultimately leads to death. When we sin and then repent (turn away from those sins), we will no longer be heading towards death (Galatians 6:1). Similarly, when we see ourselves in sin and are willing to acknowledge our wrong-doing before God, then we will no longer be heading towards death (I John 1:8-2:2). If we recognize our faults and pray to God for forgiveness, He will remove our sin (James 5:15-16; Hebrews 8:10-12).
    Well, if we can be forgiven of our sins, then what possible sin is there that leads to death? Actually, the Bible is filled with many examples. A person who willfully sins – in other words, a person who consciously chooses to sin, does not care about the consequences, and so refuses to repent – is impossible to bring back to God (Hebrews 6:4-6,10:26-31). Such an attitude is called blasphemy (Numbers 15:27-31).

    (NUMBERS15:27-31) Also if one person sins unintentionally, then he shall offer a one year old female goat for a sin offering. 28‘The priest shall make atonement before the LORD for the person who goes astray when he sins unintentionally, making atonement for him that he may be forgiven. 29‘You shall have one law for him who does anything unintentionally, for him who is native among the sons of Israel and for the alien who sojourns among them. 30‘But the person who does anything defiantly, whether he is native or an alien, that one is BLASPHEMING THE LORD; and that person shall be cut off from among his people. 31‘Because he has despised the word of the LORD and has broken His commandment, that person shall be completely cut off; his iniquity will be on him.’”

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Romans 6 is talking about spiritual death, but 1 John 5 is not. They are different authors writing at different times to different audiences. The context of 1 John 5 must determine which kind of death John is writing about…. in this case, physical death.

      • Mike

        God will not cause someone to die Physical. your taking scripture out of context.

  • Mike

    We are not saved By Works, reading some of the Comments it seems some of you put works into salvation. remember Matthew7:21 through 23. Jesus says Not Everyone who says to me LORD! LORD! will not enter heaven. only those who does the will of my father in heaven.

    Many will say to me Lord! did we not Prophesy in your name? Cast out demons in your name? and done. MANY WONDERFUL WORKS IN YOUR NAME?

    I Jesus will tell them plainly AWAY WITH YOU. YOU EVILDOERS.

    So why is it these people are going to hell? Its because they Trusted in their own works. they Had Religion but not the savior. Paul says we are saved by Grace through Faith and not by works.

    Those of you who keep using what james said about faith without works is dead. keep thinking works has to be in salvation. You will be one of those. Hearing Away with you. you Evildoers

  • http://david.tarver1835@yahoo.com David Tarver

    Yes I looked up the word blasphemy and it says to insult the Holy Spirit with profanity. I know I committed this sin. I am very disturbed. I am so depressed its scary. I’m unsure that I can stand like a man. I need God and if I don’t get him, lifes going to be a fireless torment. I can’t enjoy myself like I once could and I am very frightened. I tried to pray, but I am not convenced. Somebody tell me the bibles definition of blasphemy. I’m afraid that I went too far and now I’m in a unlikely predictament. Anyone please, if you see this statement and if you have the heart, pray to the Father of the Heavens for me. Thank you.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      David,

      Looked it up where? I have numerous theological and exegetical dictionaries, and this definition is in none of them.

      You have not committed this sin. I hope to get my ebook out this week or next week on the Unforgivable Sin. Please subscribe to the newsletter to get it for free as soon as it comes out.

  • Mike

    David:

    Wow did it take some time to read these posts! I have to agree with Jeremy, based on everything you have shared here I do not think you have committed that sin either.

    Jeremy:

    Great job defending the gospel of grace, many here have missed it.

    Peace,

    Mike

  • Ralph

    The case of the “unpardonable sin/unforgivable sin” or “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and Matthew 12:22-32. The term “blasphemy” may be generally defined as “defiant irreverence.” We would apply the term to such sins as cursing God or willfully degrading things relating to Him. It is also attributing some evil to God, or denying Him some good that we should attribute to Him. This case of blasphemy, however, is a specific one called “the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit” in Matthew 12:31. In this passage, the Pharisees, having witnessed irrefutable proof that Jesus was working miracles in the power of the Holy Spirit, claimed instead that He was possessed by the demon Beelzebub (Matthew 12:24). In Mark 3:30; Jesus is very specific about what exactly they did to commit “the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.”

    This blasphemy then has to do with accusing Jesus Christ (in person, on earth) of being demon-possessed. There are other ways to blaspheme the Holy Spirit (such as lying to Him, as in the case of Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5:1-10), but the accusation against Jesus was the blasphemy that was unpardonable. This specific unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit cannot be duplicated today.

    The only unpardonable sin today is that of continued unbelief. There is no pardon for a person who dies in unbelief. John 3:16 tells us, “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” The only condition in which someone would have no forgiveness is if he/she is not among the “whoever” that believes in Him. Jesus said, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6). To reject the only means of salvation is to condemn oneself to an eternity in hell because to reject the only pardon is, obviously, unpardonable.

    Many people fear they have committed some sin that God cannot or will not forgive, and they feel there is no hope for them, no matter what they do. Satan would like nothing better than to keep us laboring under this misconception. The truth is that if a person has this fear, he/she needs only to come before God, confess that sin, repent of it, and accept God’s promise of forgiveness. “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9). This verse assures us that God is ready to forgive any sin—no matter how heinous—if we come to Him in repentance. If you are suffering under a load of guilt today, God is waiting with His arms open in love and compassion for you to come to Him. He will never disappoint or fail to pardon those who do.

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Ralph,

      Excellent comment. It is very similar to the conclusion I have come to, which I will elaborate further in my forthcoming ebook on the unpardonable sin.

      Thank you for posting this succinct explanation of the unpardonable sin!

  • XS

    hello, i lost my virginity in my early age.Im asking what will I do? But, I know myself thatI am not guilty for it..because i love my boyfriend. what I am guilty now is that I Dont have the strength to move on.and my parents dont know about Us..and I cant take my conscience anymore..Because I Love my Parents and I Love him too  He is everything to me..
    what am I gonna do?I am very negative and weak person..so pity and weak. 

    • http://www.tillhecomes.org Jeremy Myers

      Thankfully, there is forgiveness for this also. Do not let anyone tell you that this is unforgiveable.

      It would be wise to tell your parents. Also, it would be wise to refrain from further such activity until you are married. If your boyfriend loves you, he will honor and respect you enough to wait.


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