Comments on: How Much is Your Vision Worth? http://www.tillhecomes.org/how-much-is-your-vision-worth/ Bringing Scripture and Theology to Life Fri, 18 May 2012 12:08:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jeremy Myers http://www.tillhecomes.org/how-much-is-your-vision-worth/#comment-518 Jeremy Myers Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:34:54 +0000 http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/2008/01/03/how-much-is-your-vision-worth/#comment-518 Quester, Interesting suggestion. I sometimes feel so guilty at how much my wife does for me as I sit around on the couch or typing away at my computer. She definitely "pastors" me in a sense. Her love for me spurs me on to serve and love her more as well. Quester,

Interesting suggestion. I sometimes feel so guilty at how much my wife does for me as I sit around on the couch or typing away at my computer. She definitely “pastors” me in a sense. Her love for me spurs me on to serve and love her more as well.

]]> By: Quester http://www.tillhecomes.org/how-much-is-your-vision-worth/#comment-517 Quester Wed, 09 Jan 2008 08:41:06 +0000 http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/2008/01/03/how-much-is-your-vision-worth/#comment-517 I'm no expert, but my suggestion of one way of pastoring your family is to allow them to pastor you. Sometimes it's easier to wash another's feet than to allow them to wash yours. Along the same lines is looking to see where Christ is working within and through them and honouring Christ where you see Him. These are hardly the only ways, but in my experience they're the most often forgotten. I’m no expert, but my suggestion of one way of pastoring your family is to allow them to pastor you. Sometimes it’s easier to wash another’s feet than to allow them to wash yours. Along the same lines is looking to see where Christ is working within and through them and honouring Christ where you see Him. These are hardly the only ways, but in my experience they’re the most often forgotten.

]]> By: Brian Hedrick http://www.tillhecomes.org/how-much-is-your-vision-worth/#comment-516 Brian Hedrick Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:41:28 +0000 http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/2008/01/03/how-much-is-your-vision-worth/#comment-516 Jeremy? I don't know where you stand right now, but I speak from being concerned and have prayed about your struggles in what the Christian faith is. Is it possible that you are going through a crushing experience? Have you ever read the book Gracewalk by Steve McVey? It is a good book. Have you listened to gracewalk radio? Is it possible that the law is still being packaged in some of the teachings of some of the GES without your realizing it? The Bible is sufficient for us, but Pastor McVey's testimony in the book Gracewalk may encourage you in that the crushing experience may actually be bringing us to rest in Christ alone. I hope this is the case. I grew up in some of the same circles as you did in fundamentalist camps. I still hold to those truths, but have experienced a lot of hurt that the Lord had to strengthen me to look past. Discoverying and resting in the truths of the gracewalk has been very helpful to me and actually has anchored me in those doctrinal truths, yet helped me see past some of the performance based ideas that some of the fundamentalist camps embrace. I want to be careful not to broadbrush. My heart would break to see you embrace some of the ideas of these others from other blogs that are walking away from Christianity. Jeremy? I don’t know where you stand right now, but I speak from being concerned and have prayed about your struggles in what the Christian faith is. Is it possible that you are going through a crushing experience? Have you ever read the book Gracewalk by Steve McVey? It is a good book. Have you listened to gracewalk radio? Is it possible that the law is still being packaged in some of the teachings of some of the GES without your realizing it? The Bible is sufficient for us, but Pastor McVey’s testimony in the book Gracewalk may encourage you in that the crushing experience may actually be bringing us to rest in Christ alone. I hope this is the case. I grew up in some of the same circles as you did in fundamentalist camps. I still hold to those truths, but have experienced a lot of hurt that the Lord had to strengthen me to look past. Discoverying and resting in the truths of the gracewalk has been very helpful to me and actually has anchored me in those doctrinal truths, yet helped me see past some of the performance based ideas that some of the fundamentalist camps embrace. I want to be careful not to broadbrush. My heart would break to see you embrace some of the ideas of these others from other blogs that are walking away from Christianity.

]]> By: Jon Lee http://www.tillhecomes.org/how-much-is-your-vision-worth/#comment-515 Jon Lee Sun, 06 Jan 2008 02:31:53 +0000 http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/2008/01/03/how-much-is-your-vision-worth/#comment-515 "I feel that my wife and kids are my first church. If I cannot “plant” and “pastor” them, I have no business trying to plant or pastor churches elsewhere" Not only a great statement - but a great practical and Biblical statement...Good Post! “I feel that my wife and kids are my first church. If I cannot “plant” and “pastor” them, I have no business trying to plant or pastor churches elsewhere”

Not only a great statement – but a great practical and Biblical statement…Good Post!

]]> By: Ben http://www.tillhecomes.org/how-much-is-your-vision-worth/#comment-514 Ben Sat, 05 Jan 2008 02:54:27 +0000 http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/2008/01/03/how-much-is-your-vision-worth/#comment-514 I hear you Jeremy! After my wife and I both being in fulltime ministry for the past 6-7 years, and coming very close to total burnout, this is a very good question! And I agree with you, no point "gaining the whole world and yet losing your soul" even in a ministry sense. To me it would be the ultimate failure if I start 1000 churches and then my daughter hates me and God! Its interesting though hey to look at many of the 'greats' of church history and see the cost on their families. William Carey is a great example, if I remember correctly he lost 2 wives! and some children to the mission field. I think its really great that you are asking the question, and like many questions...I dont think there is an easy answer! This is the first time I have read your blog... I look forward to reading some more! Ben. I hear you Jeremy! After my wife and I both being in fulltime ministry for the past 6-7 years, and coming very close to total burnout, this is a very good question! And I agree with you, no point “gaining the whole world and yet losing your soul” even in a ministry sense. To me it would be the ultimate failure if I start 1000 churches and then my daughter hates me and God! Its interesting though hey to look at many of the ‘greats’ of church history and see the cost on their families. William Carey is a great example, if I remember correctly he lost 2 wives! and some children to the mission field.

I think its really great that you are asking the question, and like many questions…I dont think there is an easy answer!

This is the first time I have read your blog… I look forward to reading some more!

Ben.

]]> By: Visioneering | Free Grace Churches http://www.tillhecomes.org/how-much-is-your-vision-worth/#comment-513 Visioneering | Free Grace Churches Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:49:45 +0000 http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/2008/01/03/how-much-is-your-vision-worth/#comment-513 [...] it, how to cast it, how to get others to see it, etc. One book that has really helped has been Andy Stanley’s Visioneering. I highly recommend it. I have a vision to see Free Grace Churches planted worldwide, and I think [...] [...] it, how to cast it, how to get others to see it, etc. One book that has really helped has been Andy Stanley’s Visioneering. I highly recommend it. I have a vision to see Free Grace Churches planted worldwide, and I think [...]

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