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	<title>Comments on: Faces</title>
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	<description>Living life on mission</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Myers</title>
		<link>http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/2008/04/24/faces/comment-page-1/#comment-36156</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, 

Thanks for the comment and for the encouragement from your own blog. I read every post! I am graduating in two weeks and hope to be planting a church very similar to what you are doing there in Florida. We&#039;ll be in touch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment and for the encouragement from your own blog. I read every post! I am graduating in two weeks and hope to be planting a church very similar to what you are doing there in Florida. We&#8217;ll be in touch!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Ellis, Church For Men Florida</title>
		<link>http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/2008/04/24/faces/comment-page-1/#comment-36123</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Ellis, Church For Men Florida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post my friend. Keep up the great work. Your heart is the kind of heart that keeps me from going crazy. God is working thru you my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post my friend. Keep up the great work. Your heart is the kind of heart that keeps me from going crazy. God is working thru you my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Myers</title>
		<link>http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/2008/04/24/faces/comment-page-1/#comment-36112</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Missy, 

You hit the nail on the head when you said you see some idealism in my writing. If I am anything, it&#039;s an idealist. I always have been!  I like to think of it as optimism, but maybe I&#039;m also a bit naive. 

I do know that I am learning a lot from you. I can&#039;t believe how far I&#039;ve come away from &quot;church&quot; as it is often thought of, and I wonder how much further God will take me. 

Anyway, thanks for the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missy, </p>
<p>You hit the nail on the head when you said you see some idealism in my writing. If I am anything, it&#8217;s an idealist. I always have been!  I like to think of it as optimism, but maybe I&#8217;m also a bit naive. </p>
<p>I do know that I am learning a lot from you. I can&#8217;t believe how far I&#8217;ve come away from &#8220;church&#8221; as it is often thought of, and I wonder how much further God will take me. </p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Myers</title>
		<link>http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/2008/04/24/faces/comment-page-1/#comment-36111</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>postchristian, 

Thank you for being honest. I am not offended at all. More of us Christians can learn from such honesty, and loving authenticity. 

Everything you are saying is exactly what we are against too. We are right there with you in everything you said. 

What if the &quot;church&quot; we wanted to be part of did not want or desire people to be part of church committees? What if there were no committees? What if &quot;the hands of God&quot; meant going out and serving the sick, feeding the hungry, buidling homes, giving water to those in Africa, helping AIDS victims. 

What if the church we were part of did not want tithes, ask for tithes, or expect tithes? What if there was no bureaucracy to support? No pastors to pay? No buildings to fund? 

I think us Christians need to be less pious, and more open, honest, authentic, and real...we are so &quot;pious&quot; is makes me sick. 

What if we were just as much against colonization, imperialism, and war, as you are, and that when we told people about Jesus and His love for them, we let them maintain their culture, their identity, and who they were as people? 

I definitely have lots to learn, but the brief description here is some of what I imagine as the &quot;church&quot; I want to be a part of. And to do that, we would need people like you to call us back from arrogance, tell us when we&#039;re being idiots, show us where we are wasting money and time. 

I hope you stick around and can continue to help me in these ways!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>postchristian, </p>
<p>Thank you for being honest. I am not offended at all. More of us Christians can learn from such honesty, and loving authenticity. </p>
<p>Everything you are saying is exactly what we are against too. We are right there with you in everything you said. </p>
<p>What if the &#8220;church&#8221; we wanted to be part of did not want or desire people to be part of church committees? What if there were no committees? What if &#8220;the hands of God&#8221; meant going out and serving the sick, feeding the hungry, buidling homes, giving water to those in Africa, helping AIDS victims. </p>
<p>What if the church we were part of did not want tithes, ask for tithes, or expect tithes? What if there was no bureaucracy to support? No pastors to pay? No buildings to fund? </p>
<p>I think us Christians need to be less pious, and more open, honest, authentic, and real&#8230;we are so &#8220;pious&#8221; is makes me sick. </p>
<p>What if we were just as much against colonization, imperialism, and war, as you are, and that when we told people about Jesus and His love for them, we let them maintain their culture, their identity, and who they were as people? </p>
<p>I definitely have lots to learn, but the brief description here is some of what I imagine as the &#8220;church&#8221; I want to be a part of. And to do that, we would need people like you to call us back from arrogance, tell us when we&#8217;re being idiots, show us where we are wasting money and time. </p>
<p>I hope you stick around and can continue to help me in these ways!</p>
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		<title>By: TILL HE COMES Blog &#187; Forward!</title>
		<link>http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/2008/04/24/faces/comment-page-1/#comment-36110</link>
		<dc:creator>TILL HE COMES Blog &#187; Forward!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A blog about life and church planting    &#171; Faces [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A blog about life and church planting    &laquo; Faces [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
		<link>http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/2008/04/24/faces/comment-page-1/#comment-35943</link>
		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, we are all at a different place. There may well be a great many people who have grown above the need for Christian fellowship - and if you&#039;ve ever been a part of that fellowship, you know how juvenile it can be.  :)

But there are a great many, as well, that have not been reached by a single person with a motivation of love behind it.  Juvenile or not, that fellowship is needed by those of us who have only known brokenness and fear.  I think what you&#039;ve written makes it very clear that you do not think you are one of those that believes you do not &quot;belong on that list.&quot;  In fact, I would venture to guess you believe you can easily be on that list and still love others as &quot;the hands of God.&quot;

I, too, can see some idealism in your writing that the skeptic in me shirks - but mostly I am very happy to read that your motivation is outwardly focused and not about the thrill of the ride.   Good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, we are all at a different place. There may well be a great many people who have grown above the need for Christian fellowship &#8211; and if you&#8217;ve ever been a part of that fellowship, you know how juvenile it can be.  <img src='http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But there are a great many, as well, that have not been reached by a single person with a motivation of love behind it.  Juvenile or not, that fellowship is needed by those of us who have only known brokenness and fear.  I think what you&#8217;ve written makes it very clear that you do not think you are one of those that believes you do not &#8220;belong on that list.&#8221;  In fact, I would venture to guess you believe you can easily be on that list and still love others as &#8220;the hands of God.&#8221;</p>
<p>I, too, can see some idealism in your writing that the skeptic in me shirks &#8211; but mostly I am very happy to read that your motivation is outwardly focused and not about the thrill of the ride.   Good job.</p>
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		<title>By: postchristian</title>
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		<dc:creator>postchristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re not going to like this.
here it is anyway -- please, please don&#039;t reach me.
see i&#039;ve been in church. i&#039;ve served.  i&#039;ve done missions and i don&#039;t want to be there again.
&quot;being the hands of god&quot; do you realize how arrogant that is? how people use it to say you should serve on a committee about potlucks?
&quot;answered God&#039;s call to reach out to you&quot; it seems the actual call is to get enough tithers together to support a bureaucracy.
&quot;who they can be&quot; we don&#039;t all want to be pious christians. we don&#039;t need someone to make us into them.
some of us who love God, who believe in him, think the great commission is a tool of colonization, of imperialism, of war.
you have so much to learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re not going to like this.<br />
here it is anyway &#8212; please, please don&#8217;t reach me.<br />
see i&#8217;ve been in church. i&#8217;ve served.  i&#8217;ve done missions and i don&#8217;t want to be there again.<br />
&#8220;being the hands of god&#8221; do you realize how arrogant that is? how people use it to say you should serve on a committee about potlucks?<br />
&#8220;answered God&#8217;s call to reach out to you&#8221; it seems the actual call is to get enough tithers together to support a bureaucracy.<br />
&#8220;who they can be&#8221; we don&#8217;t all want to be pious christians. we don&#8217;t need someone to make us into them.<br />
some of us who love God, who believe in him, think the great commission is a tool of colonization, of imperialism, of war.<br />
you have so much to learn.</p>
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