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	<title>Comments on: They Don&#8217;t Like Jesus or the Church</title>
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		<title>By: TILL HE COMES Blog &#187; Zeitgeist the Movie</title>
		<link>http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/2008/04/05/they-dont-like-jesus-or-the-church/#comment-33089</link>
		<dc:creator>TILL HE COMES Blog &#187; Zeitgeist the Movie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week I told you of my encounter with Lance, the Devil-stick expert, and Merril, his Mayan-guru babysitter. I met both at the Scarborough [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Myers</title>
		<link>http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/2008/04/05/they-dont-like-jesus-or-the-church/#comment-32084</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 21:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bullet, 

I watched some of the improv group. They did a routine like the show "Whose Line is it anyway?" They were actually pretty good. And they did it all while people are lobbing water balloons at them (which you could buy). 

I really don't think this was part of Lance's routine. He was talking about President Bush and the war in Iraq, and he gave me his e-mail address, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bullet, </p>
<p>I watched some of the improv group. They did a routine like the show &#8220;Whose Line is it anyway?&#8221; They were actually pretty good. And they did it all while people are lobbing water balloons at them (which you could buy). </p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t think this was part of Lance&#8217;s routine. He was talking about President Bush and the war in Iraq, and he gave me his e-mail address, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: bullet</title>
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		<dc:creator>bullet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you sure that wasn't part of his character?  At the few Renaissance faires I've been to they don't break character at all.  Although, mentioning a movie would hardly be immersive.  Amateur.  I had a bunch of friends from an improv group working at Scarbourough, so I would think it would be more professional than that.

Not that I'm great at improv.  I absolutely hate it.  The Renaissance Faire performers usually have nerves of ice and steel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure that wasn&#8217;t part of his character?  At the few Renaissance faires I&#8217;ve been to they don&#8217;t break character at all.  Although, mentioning a movie would hardly be immersive.  Amateur.  I had a bunch of friends from an improv group working at Scarbourough, so I would think it would be more professional than that.</p>
<p>Not that I&#8217;m great at improv.  I absolutely hate it.  The Renaissance Faire performers usually have nerves of ice and steel.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a good work to use encounters like this to let people see that your not a version of the religious caricatures they usually have in mind about Christian's.

I hope (and pray) that your efforts will be successful!

Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a good work to use encounters like this to let people see that your not a version of the religious caricatures they usually have in mind about Christian&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I hope (and pray) that your efforts will be successful!</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Myers</title>
		<link>http://www.tillhecomes.org/blog/2008/04/05/they-dont-like-jesus-or-the-church/#comment-31824</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 03:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just did a bit of research, and found out that the "twirling sticks" are called "Devil Sticks." That's appropriate! Ha ha. 

I think I'll buy a set next week. 

You can &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_sticks" rel="nofollow"&gt;read more about them here.&lt;/a&gt;

As a side note (for all you church planters), there are "Devil Stick Rules" which make good principles for church planting:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Juggle till you drop is an activity in which a group of twirlers share one stick - the juggler with the stick attempts increasingly more difficult and flamboyant tricks, during his turn, attempting to 'push the envelope' so hard that he loses control and drops the stick - a drop is when the stick hits the ground and comes to rest - whereupon he immediately hands the control sticks to the next player, who attempts an even more difficult combination of moves. The point of the game is to juggle so aggressively that each turn lasts a matter of seconds. This results in:

1. everyone gets to play, even with only one stick in the group... 
2. everyone sees each other push the limits, and often new tricks are invented based on 'mistakes', or derived from another juggler's attempts... 
3. one has an opportunity to rest, as juggling at the edge of your abilities uses lots of energy. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just did a bit of research, and found out that the &#8220;twirling sticks&#8221; are called &#8220;Devil Sticks.&#8221; That&#8217;s appropriate! Ha ha. </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll buy a set next week. </p>
<p>You can <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_sticks" rel="nofollow">read more about them here.</a></p>
<p>As a side note (for all you church planters), there are &#8220;Devil Stick Rules&#8221; which make good principles for church planting:</p>
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Juggle till you drop is an activity in which a group of twirlers share one stick - the juggler with the stick attempts increasingly more difficult and flamboyant tricks, during his turn, attempting to &#8216;push the envelope&#8217; so hard that he loses control and drops the stick - a drop is when the stick hits the ground and comes to rest - whereupon he immediately hands the control sticks to the next player, who attempts an even more difficult combination of moves. The point of the game is to juggle so aggressively that each turn lasts a matter of seconds. This results in:</p>
<p>1. everyone gets to play, even with only one stick in the group&#8230;<br />
2. everyone sees each other push the limits, and often new tricks are invented based on &#8216;mistakes&#8217;, or derived from another juggler&#8217;s attempts&#8230;<br />
3. one has an opportunity to rest, as juggling at the edge of your abilities uses lots of energy. </p></blockquote>
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